Bill Windsor on A.T.W’s post : “Barry Goldstein on the Mother’s Movement & Abusers”

RE: ATW has recently been in contact with Barry Goldstein, when we sent him and other professionals, a link introducing the blog, and inviting comments.

Barry has been very candid in sharing his thoughts about the Mother’s Movement and how it should proceed. One of the things Barry mentioned was creating a Protective Mothers Manifesto, to offer guidelines on ethical behavior for those within the Mother’s Movement.

ATW has received Barry’s permission to post his e-mail in full, as long as we agree not to edit, take out of context, or change the content in any way. In the interest of truth and accuracy, we also ask our readers to respect Barry’s wishes. We welcome reader’s comments please keep in mind ATW’s policy keeping all comments respectful.

Thank-you for Barry for your valuable feedback, and contributions.

– Among the Wolves

Read A.T.W’s Post from Barry in it’s entirety;
http://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/barry-goldstein-may-2013/

Bill Windsor comments on Barry Goldstein’s Post:

“In my opinion, Barry Goldstein is incompetent and should be ignored by anyone with intelligence in the world of family courts, abuse, and domestic violence.

For starters, I have to question the intelligence, or lack thereof, of anyone who would defend or support the criminals with the so-called American Mothers Political Party.

Goldstein has made scurrilous comments about me, but he doesn’t know me, doesn’t know a thing about me, has never spoken with me (and never will), and should have been smart enough to keep his mouth shut.

Goldstein claims I don’t understand the gendered nature of “the problems we are dealing with.” How utterly ridiculous. I fully understand the two primary genders. I know that men lie and lie and lie and use handbooks in divorce to ensure they take advantage of the mother of their children. It makes me sick. But I also know that women lie and lie and lie, pretend to be abused when they weren’t, pretend their children were abused when they weren’t, and will say and do anything to hurt their ex. Meanwhile, in both cases, the children are terribly abused by the process, and those with true stories get obscured by all the serial liars and abusers.

Should we consider Barry Goldstein to be similar to Richard Gardner?

When I became a part of the Lawless America project, I spent years learning from the women and men who claim they are victims, and I am closing in on 365 days on the road, face-to-face with thousands. I believe I have interviewed far more people than Goldstein will ever hope to interview. I was devastated to hear stories from women all across America….and then to learn that a number of these women lied. If they will lie about me (as some have), then I can’t possibly believe that they are telling the truth about anything else.

I do everything humanly possible to assist and support genuine protective mothers. But I will also do everything in my power to expose the liars and the lies.

I am about to decide that nothing meaningful will ever be done to correct the problems with family courts, abuse, and domestic violence because virtually all of the groups are haters. There are the father haters and the mother haters. Many who pretend to be for honesty and the children are often little more than actors. People with what they claim are “non-profit associations” are often in it just for the money.

I will not work with anyone who supports Barry Goldstein, the so-called American Mothers Political Party, Clodine Dumbrowski, Lorraine Tipton, Kimberly Wigglesworth, Kathleen Russell, the so-called Center for Judicial Excellence, Connie Valentine, the so-called California Protective Parents Association, or the so-called Battered Mothers Custody Conference. No one who has anything to do with these people or groups will be in our movies of videos because these people and groups support the twisted criminal activities of the AMPP folks. Many of these people and groups hate fathers and love liars.”

Barry Goldstein on the Mother’s Movement & Abusers

ATW has recently been in contact with Barry Goldstein, when we sent him and other professionals, a link introducing the blog, and inviting comments.

Barry has been very candid in sharing his thoughts about the Mother’s Movement and how it should proceed. One of the things Barry mentioned was creating a Protective Mothers Manifesto, to offer guidelines on ethical behavior for those within the Mother’s Movement.

ATW has received Barry’s permission to post his e-mail in full, as long as we agree not to edit, take out of context, or change the content in any way. In the interest of truth and accuracy, we also ask our readers to respect Barry’s wishes. We welcome reader’s comments please keep in mind ATW’s policy keeping all comments respectful.

Thank-you for Barry for your valuable feedback, and contributions.

– Among the Wolves

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Barry Goldstein:

My interest in creating a protective mother manifesto is to express our beliefs, help to unite those working to reform the broken custody court system and to avoid the kind of personal attacks you reference. I certainly agree that some of my friends who are protective mothers have acted improperly. I hope that we can stop this so that it will be safer for all protective mothers as they already face too many dangers and obstacles.

From my perspective context is extremely important in understanding these issues. Too often we create a false equivalency between people and groups that do not have equal privileges and opportunities. We live in a sexist society in which men receive substantial unearned privileges even if we are not always aware of this. There is a lot of bad research that suggests women abuse men about as often as men abuse women. This is based on deeply flawed practices and one of the things they miss is that women are often so afraid of their partners, afraid they will kill or seriously harm them that they will do whatever they think he wants and let him make the decisions just so he will not hurt them. The reverse is rarely true. This means that many actions that seem the same on the surface are really very different because of the inherent power that men have. This is one of the reasons I believe the behavior and threats by Bill Windsor are so much worse and of more concern.

There is a fundamental difference when something is done by someone in a position of privilege and power in our society then when it is done by someone who lacks these privileges. In this context, I believe women can be assaultive, disrespectful and totally inappropriate but I would not use a term like abuser or domestic violence for what they do because they do not have the same power that men have. I believe we need to keep the context in mind.

I am particularly concerned that protective mothers who are on both sides of this present dispute have gone through horrific experiences and this continues to impact them. This is an important reason why they should be treated with the utmost respect and we must avoid acting in ways that could be frightening. To the extent that the improper behavior was directed at protective mothers it makes it all the more unacceptable. At the same time it is common that victims of domestic violence often act out in inappropriate ways as a result of his abuse. One of the big problems is that court professionals often fail to understand this and severely punish mothers for actions that are normal under the circumstances.

I know enough about some of the cases of the protective mothers who I agree acted improperly to know they are genuine victims of the broken court system and sincerely want to create the reforms we all favor. That is why my goal is to modify the unacceptable behavior and keep them as part of our movement. They have also made many valuable contributions to our work. I still believe we can respond in a way that their involvement can be salvaged in a way that is win-win for our movement.

I am far more concerned about the actions of Bill Windsor. He never seemed to have understood the gendered nature of the problems we are dealing with. When I became a part of this movement and before that the battered women’s movement, I spent a lot of time learning from the women who are the leaders and confronting my unearned privileges and sexist beliefs. I learned the importance of taking leadership from women. Bill Windsor does not seem to have ever gone through this process and instead used his male privilege to engage in completely inappropriate attacks on genuine protective mothers. He raised tremendous hopes in many protective mothers but it appears he does not get it and his reaction to criticism is beyond inappropriate.

I think it is important that we keep our eyes on the ball. Unfortunately this dispute has been a distraction. The important thing is to reform the broken system that hurts so many children. I believe the women who made inappropriate personal attacks can contribute to the goal, but need to stop the attacks. Obviously this is a difficult issue and like most issues involved with domestic violence we are confronted with what is the least harmful response.

Screenshots Capture Bakery Blow Up: Amy’s Baking vs. Customers

Ordinary people have the power to expose the truth, especially when working together for a common good. Taking truth into their own hands, screenshots document events and capture lies as they are told in an undeniable way. Here is an example from recent news…


Things get heated in the kitchen when the two owners of Amy’s Baking are exposed in a sugar donut swindle, screenshots capture their rage as they lash out against customers who caught them in lies.

Amy and Samy Bouzaglo, of Amy’s Baking Company Boutique & Bistro in Scottsdale, Arizona, got busted online for lying to customers by selling good labeled “home baked” that were bought elsewhere. Amy’s Baking also posted pictures of bakery items on their own website that were cut/pasted from other sites. Things got so heated between the Bouzaglos and their customers, that the owners actually started to swear and threaten the customers. ALL captured by screenshots.

It all started when Amy and Samy Bouzaglo appeared on “Kitchen Nightmares” with Chef Gordon Ramsay, who got so fed up with these bogus bakers that he stormed out of Amy’s Baking and refused to frost anymore cupcakes. The Bouzaglos tried to sweeten the nightmarish episode by going on the internet and making elaborate claims and comments about Amy’s Baking before the show aired.The Bouzaglos even created fake online profiles to praise their bakery and fight anyone who disagreed.

When the episode appeared on TV, the customers were buying the lies fed to them. So the customers returned to the internet pages of Amy’s Baking–demanding answers, “But by Monday afternoon, after Reddit, Yelp, and Facebook users criticized them and accused them of reselling other company’s baked goods—some posted links proving that almost all of the pictures of Amy’s “homemade” items had been lifted from other people’s blogs and things got ugly.” (Yahoo! Shine, 5/14/13).

The screenshots tell the rest of the story…the Bouzaglos get so mad they call their customers “stupid” and “punks” and cuss out the customers, then threaten legal action. The Bouzaglos call on “god” as if they are on a holy mission and state “we will show all of you”.

All this arguing has made us lose our appetite for Amy’s Baking…

We are posting this story to show the power of the truth when someone is brave enough to tell it, to fight for it…and to take a stand against bullies and abusers.

More Info-http://shine.yahoo.com/work-money/kitchen-nightmare-comes-true-for-arizona-restaurant-owners-182329445.html

Among the Wolves: Frequently Asked Questions

From this point forward, due to A.T.W’s sharp increase in readership and followers along with the overwhelming number of comments on our posts, A.T.W regrets to inform our readers, that we cannot always give personal replies to each comment submitted. We will do our best to respond but it is not always possible.

Since our reader’s thoughts and support are important to us, we submit this general response.

WHO is Among the Wolves (A.T.W)?
A.T.W. are investigative reporters.

A.T.W. is a group of concerned citizens (male and female, of diverse backgrounds), who are observing some alarming things happening within popular advocacy organizations including: abusive behavior by advocates (cyber bullying, personal attacks, threats, identity theft etc), slander and attacks on individuals/other organizations and re-traumatization of victims seeking help.

A.T.W. was created with the public in mind–to inform those seeking help from victim advocacy organizations (it’s leaders and members) of potential abusers masquerading as victims and/or advocates. The purpose of A.T.W. is to expose the “wolves in sheep’s clothing” to better protect those seeking help from those organizations/individuals.

Are you ADVOCATES?
A.T.W. wants to make it very clear that we do not offer advocacy or support services, nor do we represent victims or personal cases.

Why do you use the image of a wolf?
The “wolf in sheep’s clothing” is a symbol of a dangerous person hiding behind the mask of a sheep. Symbolizing an abusive advocate, pretending to be a victim.

Matthew 7:15, “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”

The image of the wolf can be interpreted in a variety of ways, including cultural variations. A.T.W. may occasionally explore other interpretations of the wolf.

Is A.T.W. attached to any group, organization or movement?
A.T.W. does not represent any special interests or advocacy organizations or individuals. We are not attached to any groups or professionals in the victims advocacy movement or elsewhere.

A.T.W. is neutral, we leave it up to the reader to further investigate, and make an informed decision.

Where does A.T.W. get its information?
A.T.W. posts proof in the form of official public court documents,public police records or screen shots that show a statement made in our subject’s own words. We also note sequence of events to further stay true to the truth. We present the truth with proof to back it up and let the reader decide.

The information presented on A.T.W. can be found in the public domain, or is a result of reader tips (which are then researched and verified).

Besides offering information on advocacy groups, A.T.W. may also post quotes/inspirational thoughts and news articles on related subjects.

What about privacy?
Some of research we have stumbled upon includes information from our subjects’ own words, which they have decided publicly post. When a subject decides to publicly post personal information about themselves or their families, they are assuming all responsibility and risk for what they reveal. When the subject puts their information in the public domain, or online, they are consciously making the decision to draw attention to their lives, and thereby giving up their privacy.

A.T.W. diligently works to preserve the privacy and safety of children involved in these situations–even if their parent chooses not to.

Why did you create A.T.W.?
We have noticed an alarming trend in advocacy groups that some advocates and professionals offering to help victims share the same controlling and abusive behavior as what the victims fought to escape. Even worse, many of these groups and individuals hide among legitimate victims. They truly are “wolves in sheep’s clothing” who exploit, intimidate and control the victims they claim to defend. These groups get away with their abusive behavior because people are too afraid to speak out, because those who do are often bullied, harassed, stalked & threatened.

A.T.W. was created to expose these abusive groups and individuals by showing evidence of their actions, and voicing complaints. We hope that with evidence, and public outcry, these acts of abuse will be investigated, and those behind these attacks will be held accountable. There is no room for abusers in victim’s advocacy groups.

A.T.W. would like to thank our readers for visiting our blog, and leaving their tips and comments.

Maria Bauer Melinn Receives a Special Award: Breaking News!

Feeling bad that Maria Bauer Melinn did not get the attention she was so desperately seeking, and was dumped from the Fox 17 segment, somehow we wish to make it up to her.

So ATW has created this contest just for Maria, it is called The Most Outrageous Self-Proclaimed Domestic Violence Expert in the Whole Mothers Movement Starring in the Role of the Most Obnoxious Blatant Self Promoting Self Proclaimed DV Advocate/Expert… and NOW Facebook Sexpot!

:: drumroll :: PRESENTING…. ::roll out red carpet :: Maria Bauer Melinn!!!!!

Because ATW is all about truth backed up with proof, see the screenshots of Maria’s *glamorous* FB profile photo shoot. The comments alone prove she deserves this esteemed award. These pictures span a number of years, this is not an isolated incident.

Babuhai Patel: The best girl in entire face book a her hjghness Maria
(FYI- Wearing a purple ribbon is a way to show your support to end domestic violence. What a disgrace, Maria!)

Younes Moumen: hot and hooootttterrr..how r u?
Nagi Mihakel: omg baby every time u get cutie then before just fine as hell I really dont know what to say but u got me on fire hun beautiful
Babuhai Patel: Would like to close to u

Younes Moumen: hot..hehehe
Tom Duggan: REALLY like

Sahin Kara: in one word, magnificent .. <3

Babubhai Patel: The best beauty.. eyes & lips r extra ordinary, worthy to see & enjoy for hours and hours and hours

Abdul Raoof Mughal: You belong in Bollywood films :-P

Maria, here is your crown, you wear it well. We can’t help to notice your male admirers would think so too.

Maria Melinn’s Latest Publicity Stunt

On a warm sunny mother’s day, one family grieves and the other is laughing and plotting over the greatest heartbreak a mother can experience–the loss of her child.

The mother who is laughing and plotting is none other than Maria Bauer Melinn.

Those who grieve are her victims, her children, and those sincerely devastated by the death of Michael Melinn–Maria’s own son. Instead of honoring Michael’s memory this Mother’s Day, Maria Melinn is laughing (we don’t understand why!) and plotting ways to drum up more publicity for herself, and further exploit her children–who have been dragged into Maria Melinn’s never-ending campaign of self promotion.

After Maria Melinn “blitz attacked” Fox 17 Grand Rapids, they interviewed Melinn for an episode on people who have lost a child to suicide.?

For all those tuning into Maria’s bogus interview on Fox, here is what you need to know…

Who gets arrested on felonious assault charges for trying to run her ex over with the car in full view of her children and yet claims to be a domestic violence advocate/expert?
Answer: abuser Maria Melinn!!

Who is laughing and talking about being “camera ready” when being interviewed about their own child’s suicide? Answer: abuser Maria Melinn!!!

Who files a $10 million dollar lawsuit for Michael’s wrongful death, served on the grieving family on the anniversary of his suicide? Answer: abuser Maria Melin!!!

We completely understand how some abused mothers are not getting justice in court. However, documented proof shows Maria is NOT one of these mothers yet she continues to pretend to be a victim of family court corruption to draw attention to herself, and in the process she continues to damage her children–and put unwanted attention on them. Maria has shown little concern for her children’s safety and privacy, these are not the actions of a sincere protective mother.

Let’s not forget Maria manipulated her way into getting an interview with Able 2 UK just like she is doing with Fox.. Able 2 UK: Hannah Melinn replies to her mother, Maria Melinn’s, interview exposing the lies

http://www.able2uk.com/News/Disabilities/EXCLUSIVE-Hannah-Melinn-replies-to-ABLE2UK.html

Michael’s Wish Exposing the truth about Maria Melinn, There is MUCH More Documentation and Proof About Maria’s Lies, and the Hurt She Has Caused her Family, at this Link: http://michaelswish.com/

“Victims of Judge Gardner”, Maria Melinn and Bestie Deanna Kloostra created this FB page that borders on stalking and includes inappropriate disclosures of information about public officials, unfounded allegations that have the potential to cause damage and libel and vulgar comments. They just throw out statements without having documented proof, see for yourself: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Victims-of-Judge-Gardner/149550385144002


***************** READER UPDATES ********************************

Robin Renee
michaelswish.com
robinsmith20012001@yahoo.com
66.87.83.122 Submitted on 2013/05/13 at 5:59 pm
****Reader Update****
This is why you cannot find Maria’s DV record
Michigan’s Domestic Violence First Offender Program
If you have committed a Domestic Violence for the first time you may be eligible to get your case dismissed under Michigan’s Domestic Violence First Offender Program (the Spousal Abuse Act MCL §769.4a). Regardless of whether the alleged victim consents, the prosecutor must consent or the judge lacks power to impose this program.

Generally the Defendant is placed on probation and the court will dismiss the case upon successful completion. Many times probation in Michigan’s Domestic Violence First Offender Program includes: no contact with the victim, domestic violence classes, paying fines and costs and other provisions

****Reader Update****
FOX was contacted prior to airing and decided not to air Maria Melinn’s interview.

From StopAbuse: “Maria’s interview never appeared on FOX. Why? Because as soon as we got wind of it, we contacted every news outlet in Grand Rapids and provided them with the truth about Maria Bauer Melinn, along with all documentation showing her history of spousal abuse (in front of the children), larceny (for which she has an order to seize property in excess of 19K) and negligent and abusive parenting of her children (police reports, pictures, parenting assessments, court transcripts, etc). Her begged for “spot” was immediately yanked by FOX, and we can nearly assure you not a news outlet in that area will be interested in hearing what she has to say again.…Maria’s reign of terror over the Melinn family and her children is coming to an end. Hopefully, by the time we are done, she will be in jail where she belongs with the rest of the abusers and thieves…”

From Robin Renee: “This is why you cannot find Maria’s DV record
Michigan’s Domestic Violence First Offender Program. If you have committed a Domestic Violence for the first time you may be eligible to get your case dismissed under Michigan’s Domestic Violence First Offender Program (the Spousal Abuse Act MCL §769.4a). Regardless of whether the alleged victim consents, the prosecutor must consent or the judge lacks power to impose this program.

Generally the Defendant is placed on probation and the court will dismiss the case upon successful completion. Many times probation in Michigan’s Domestic Violence First Offender Program includes: no contact with the victim, domestic violence classes, paying fines and costs and other provisions.”

Happy Mother’s Day (Quote Wolf & Mother)

“When I first arrived in Norway, people told me that there weren’t any wolves left, save for one lone female, passing through on her way back to Russia..

The loss of the wolf is like the loss of a mother. Somewhere she roams in memory, in darkness. Our bond with her is inexplicable, before the beginning of time. She is fierce love; she is sorrow. She is howling in the wilderness we can never see, calling us home. She is what we fear–and what we long to return to–the heat of the cave and animal closeness, before all civilization and reason.”

–Mira Bartok, p. 241, “The Memory Palace”. Free Press: 2011. A daughter’s memoir about Bartok’s mentally ill mother, their relationship and the impact of her mother’s illness on her life. Bartok uses art and writing throughout this book to make sense of her experiences, and find peace among the madness.