Bill Windsor on A.T.W’s post : “Barry Goldstein on the Mother’s Movement & Abusers”

RE: ATW has recently been in contact with Barry Goldstein, when we sent him and other professionals, a link introducing the blog, and inviting comments.

Barry has been very candid in sharing his thoughts about the Mother’s Movement and how it should proceed. One of the things Barry mentioned was creating a Protective Mothers Manifesto, to offer guidelines on ethical behavior for those within the Mother’s Movement.

ATW has received Barry’s permission to post his e-mail in full, as long as we agree not to edit, take out of context, or change the content in any way. In the interest of truth and accuracy, we also ask our readers to respect Barry’s wishes. We welcome reader’s comments please keep in mind ATW’s policy keeping all comments respectful.

Thank-you for Barry for your valuable feedback, and contributions.

– Among the Wolves

Read A.T.W’s Post from Barry in it’s entirety;
http://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/barry-goldstein-may-2013/

Bill Windsor comments on Barry Goldstein’s Post:

“In my opinion, Barry Goldstein is incompetent and should be ignored by anyone with intelligence in the world of family courts, abuse, and domestic violence.

For starters, I have to question the intelligence, or lack thereof, of anyone who would defend or support the criminals with the so-called American Mothers Political Party.

Goldstein has made scurrilous comments about me, but he doesn’t know me, doesn’t know a thing about me, has never spoken with me (and never will), and should have been smart enough to keep his mouth shut.

Goldstein claims I don’t understand the gendered nature of “the problems we are dealing with.” How utterly ridiculous. I fully understand the two primary genders. I know that men lie and lie and lie and use handbooks in divorce to ensure they take advantage of the mother of their children. It makes me sick. But I also know that women lie and lie and lie, pretend to be abused when they weren’t, pretend their children were abused when they weren’t, and will say and do anything to hurt their ex. Meanwhile, in both cases, the children are terribly abused by the process, and those with true stories get obscured by all the serial liars and abusers.

Should we consider Barry Goldstein to be similar to Richard Gardner?

When I became a part of the Lawless America project, I spent years learning from the women and men who claim they are victims, and I am closing in on 365 days on the road, face-to-face with thousands. I believe I have interviewed far more people than Goldstein will ever hope to interview. I was devastated to hear stories from women all across America….and then to learn that a number of these women lied. If they will lie about me (as some have), then I can’t possibly believe that they are telling the truth about anything else.

I do everything humanly possible to assist and support genuine protective mothers. But I will also do everything in my power to expose the liars and the lies.

I am about to decide that nothing meaningful will ever be done to correct the problems with family courts, abuse, and domestic violence because virtually all of the groups are haters. There are the father haters and the mother haters. Many who pretend to be for honesty and the children are often little more than actors. People with what they claim are “non-profit associations” are often in it just for the money.

I will not work with anyone who supports Barry Goldstein, the so-called American Mothers Political Party, Clodine Dumbrowski, Lorraine Tipton, Kimberly Wigglesworth, Kathleen Russell, the so-called Center for Judicial Excellence, Connie Valentine, the so-called California Protective Parents Association, or the so-called Battered Mothers Custody Conference. No one who has anything to do with these people or groups will be in our movies of videos because these people and groups support the twisted criminal activities of the AMPP folks. Many of these people and groups hate fathers and love liars.”

Barry Goldstein on the Mother’s Movement & Abusers

ATW has recently been in contact with Barry Goldstein, when we sent him and other professionals, a link introducing the blog, and inviting comments.

Barry has been very candid in sharing his thoughts about the Mother’s Movement and how it should proceed. One of the things Barry mentioned was creating a Protective Mothers Manifesto, to offer guidelines on ethical behavior for those within the Mother’s Movement.

ATW has received Barry’s permission to post his e-mail in full, as long as we agree not to edit, take out of context, or change the content in any way. In the interest of truth and accuracy, we also ask our readers to respect Barry’s wishes. We welcome reader’s comments please keep in mind ATW’s policy keeping all comments respectful.

Thank-you for Barry for your valuable feedback, and contributions.

– Among the Wolves

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Barry Goldstein:

My interest in creating a protective mother manifesto is to express our beliefs, help to unite those working to reform the broken custody court system and to avoid the kind of personal attacks you reference. I certainly agree that some of my friends who are protective mothers have acted improperly. I hope that we can stop this so that it will be safer for all protective mothers as they already face too many dangers and obstacles.

From my perspective context is extremely important in understanding these issues. Too often we create a false equivalency between people and groups that do not have equal privileges and opportunities. We live in a sexist society in which men receive substantial unearned privileges even if we are not always aware of this. There is a lot of bad research that suggests women abuse men about as often as men abuse women. This is based on deeply flawed practices and one of the things they miss is that women are often so afraid of their partners, afraid they will kill or seriously harm them that they will do whatever they think he wants and let him make the decisions just so he will not hurt them. The reverse is rarely true. This means that many actions that seem the same on the surface are really very different because of the inherent power that men have. This is one of the reasons I believe the behavior and threats by Bill Windsor are so much worse and of more concern.

There is a fundamental difference when something is done by someone in a position of privilege and power in our society then when it is done by someone who lacks these privileges. In this context, I believe women can be assaultive, disrespectful and totally inappropriate but I would not use a term like abuser or domestic violence for what they do because they do not have the same power that men have. I believe we need to keep the context in mind.

I am particularly concerned that protective mothers who are on both sides of this present dispute have gone through horrific experiences and this continues to impact them. This is an important reason why they should be treated with the utmost respect and we must avoid acting in ways that could be frightening. To the extent that the improper behavior was directed at protective mothers it makes it all the more unacceptable. At the same time it is common that victims of domestic violence often act out in inappropriate ways as a result of his abuse. One of the big problems is that court professionals often fail to understand this and severely punish mothers for actions that are normal under the circumstances.

I know enough about some of the cases of the protective mothers who I agree acted improperly to know they are genuine victims of the broken court system and sincerely want to create the reforms we all favor. That is why my goal is to modify the unacceptable behavior and keep them as part of our movement. They have also made many valuable contributions to our work. I still believe we can respond in a way that their involvement can be salvaged in a way that is win-win for our movement.

I am far more concerned about the actions of Bill Windsor. He never seemed to have understood the gendered nature of the problems we are dealing with. When I became a part of this movement and before that the battered women’s movement, I spent a lot of time learning from the women who are the leaders and confronting my unearned privileges and sexist beliefs. I learned the importance of taking leadership from women. Bill Windsor does not seem to have ever gone through this process and instead used his male privilege to engage in completely inappropriate attacks on genuine protective mothers. He raised tremendous hopes in many protective mothers but it appears he does not get it and his reaction to criticism is beyond inappropriate.

I think it is important that we keep our eyes on the ball. Unfortunately this dispute has been a distraction. The important thing is to reform the broken system that hurts so many children. I believe the women who made inappropriate personal attacks can contribute to the goal, but need to stop the attacks. Obviously this is a difficult issue and like most issues involved with domestic violence we are confronted with what is the least harmful response.

Screenshots Capture Bakery Blow Up: Amy’s Baking vs. Customers

Ordinary people have the power to expose the truth, especially when working together for a common good. Taking truth into their own hands, screenshots document events and capture lies as they are told in an undeniable way. Here is an example from recent news…


Things get heated in the kitchen when the two owners of Amy’s Baking are exposed in a sugar donut swindle, screenshots capture their rage as they lash out against customers who caught them in lies.

Amy and Samy Bouzaglo, of Amy’s Baking Company Boutique & Bistro in Scottsdale, Arizona, got busted online for lying to customers by selling good labeled “home baked” that were bought elsewhere. Amy’s Baking also posted pictures of bakery items on their own website that were cut/pasted from other sites. Things got so heated between the Bouzaglos and their customers, that the owners actually started to swear and threaten the customers. ALL captured by screenshots.

It all started when Amy and Samy Bouzaglo appeared on “Kitchen Nightmares” with Chef Gordon Ramsay, who got so fed up with these bogus bakers that he stormed out of Amy’s Baking and refused to frost anymore cupcakes. The Bouzaglos tried to sweeten the nightmarish episode by going on the internet and making elaborate claims and comments about Amy’s Baking before the show aired.The Bouzaglos even created fake online profiles to praise their bakery and fight anyone who disagreed.

When the episode appeared on TV, the customers were buying the lies fed to them. So the customers returned to the internet pages of Amy’s Baking–demanding answers, “But by Monday afternoon, after Reddit, Yelp, and Facebook users criticized them and accused them of reselling other company’s baked goods—some posted links proving that almost all of the pictures of Amy’s “homemade” items had been lifted from other people’s blogs and things got ugly.” (Yahoo! Shine, 5/14/13).

The screenshots tell the rest of the story…the Bouzaglos get so mad they call their customers “stupid” and “punks” and cuss out the customers, then threaten legal action. The Bouzaglos call on “god” as if they are on a holy mission and state “we will show all of you”.

All this arguing has made us lose our appetite for Amy’s Baking…

We are posting this story to show the power of the truth when someone is brave enough to tell it, to fight for it…and to take a stand against bullies and abusers.

More Info-http://shine.yahoo.com/work-money/kitchen-nightmare-comes-true-for-arizona-restaurant-owners-182329445.html

Among the Wolves: Frequently Asked Questions

From this point forward, due to A.T.W’s sharp increase in readership and followers along with the overwhelming number of comments on our posts, A.T.W regrets to inform our readers, that we cannot always give personal replies to each comment submitted. We will do our best to respond but it is not always possible.

Since our reader’s thoughts and support are important to us, we submit this general response.

WHO is Among the Wolves (A.T.W)?
A.T.W. are investigative reporters.

A.T.W. is a group of concerned citizens (male and female, of diverse backgrounds), who are observing some alarming things happening within popular advocacy organizations including: abusive behavior by advocates (cyber bullying, personal attacks, threats, identity theft etc), slander and attacks on individuals/other organizations and re-traumatization of victims seeking help.

A.T.W. was created with the public in mind–to inform those seeking help from victim advocacy organizations (it’s leaders and members) of potential abusers masquerading as victims and/or advocates. The purpose of A.T.W. is to expose the “wolves in sheep’s clothing” to better protect those seeking help from those organizations/individuals.

Are you ADVOCATES?
A.T.W. wants to make it very clear that we do not offer advocacy or support services, nor do we represent victims or personal cases.

Why do you use the image of a wolf?
The “wolf in sheep’s clothing” is a symbol of a dangerous person hiding behind the mask of a sheep. Symbolizing an abusive advocate, pretending to be a victim.

Matthew 7:15, “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”

The image of the wolf can be interpreted in a variety of ways, including cultural variations. A.T.W. may occasionally explore other interpretations of the wolf.

Is A.T.W. attached to any group, organization or movement?
A.T.W. does not represent any special interests or advocacy organizations or individuals. We are not attached to any groups or professionals in the victims advocacy movement or elsewhere.

A.T.W. is neutral, we leave it up to the reader to further investigate, and make an informed decision.

Where does A.T.W. get its information?
A.T.W. posts proof in the form of official public court documents,public police records or screen shots that show a statement made in our subject’s own words. We also note sequence of events to further stay true to the truth. We present the truth with proof to back it up and let the reader decide.

The information presented on A.T.W. can be found in the public domain, or is a result of reader tips (which are then researched and verified).

Besides offering information on advocacy groups, A.T.W. may also post quotes/inspirational thoughts and news articles on related subjects.

What about privacy?
Some of research we have stumbled upon includes information from our subjects’ own words, which they have decided publicly post. When a subject decides to publicly post personal information about themselves or their families, they are assuming all responsibility and risk for what they reveal. When the subject puts their information in the public domain, or online, they are consciously making the decision to draw attention to their lives, and thereby giving up their privacy.

A.T.W. diligently works to preserve the privacy and safety of children involved in these situations–even if their parent chooses not to.

Why did you create A.T.W.?
We have noticed an alarming trend in advocacy groups that some advocates and professionals offering to help victims share the same controlling and abusive behavior as what the victims fought to escape. Even worse, many of these groups and individuals hide among legitimate victims. They truly are “wolves in sheep’s clothing” who exploit, intimidate and control the victims they claim to defend. These groups get away with their abusive behavior because people are too afraid to speak out, because those who do are often bullied, harassed, stalked & threatened.

A.T.W. was created to expose these abusive groups and individuals by showing evidence of their actions, and voicing complaints. We hope that with evidence, and public outcry, these acts of abuse will be investigated, and those behind these attacks will be held accountable. There is no room for abusers in victim’s advocacy groups.

A.T.W. would like to thank our readers for visiting our blog, and leaving their tips and comments.

Maria Bauer Melinn Receives a Special Award: Breaking News!

Feeling bad that Maria Bauer Melinn did not get the attention she was so desperately seeking, and was dumped from the Fox 17 segment, somehow we wish to make it up to her.

So ATW has created this contest just for Maria, it is called The Most Outrageous Self-Proclaimed Domestic Violence Expert in the Whole Mothers Movement Starring in the Role of the Most Obnoxious Blatant Self Promoting Self Proclaimed DV Advocate/Expert… and NOW Facebook Sexpot!

:: drumroll :: PRESENTING…. ::roll out red carpet :: Maria Bauer Melinn!!!!!

Because ATW is all about truth backed up with proof, see the screenshots of Maria’s *glamorous* FB profile photo shoot. The comments alone prove she deserves this esteemed award. These pictures span a number of years, this is not an isolated incident.

Babuhai Patel: The best girl in entire face book a her hjghness Maria
(FYI- Wearing a purple ribbon is a way to show your support to end domestic violence. What a disgrace, Maria!)

Younes Moumen: hot and hooootttterrr..how r u?
Nagi Mihakel: omg baby every time u get cutie then before just fine as hell I really dont know what to say but u got me on fire hun beautiful
Babuhai Patel: Would like to close to u

Younes Moumen: hot..hehehe
Tom Duggan: REALLY like

Sahin Kara: in one word, magnificent .. <3

Babubhai Patel: The best beauty.. eyes & lips r extra ordinary, worthy to see & enjoy for hours and hours and hours

Abdul Raoof Mughal: You belong in Bollywood films :-P

Maria, here is your crown, you wear it well. We can’t help to notice your male admirers would think so too.

Maria Melinn’s Latest Publicity Stunt

On a warm sunny mother’s day, one family grieves and the other is laughing and plotting over the greatest heartbreak a mother can experience–the loss of her child.

The mother who is laughing and plotting is none other than Maria Bauer Melinn.

Those who grieve are her victims, her children, and those sincerely devastated by the death of Michael Melinn–Maria’s own son. Instead of honoring Michael’s memory this Mother’s Day, Maria Melinn is laughing (we don’t understand why!) and plotting ways to drum up more publicity for herself, and further exploit her children–who have been dragged into Maria Melinn’s never-ending campaign of self promotion.

After Maria Melinn “blitz attacked” Fox 17 Grand Rapids, they interviewed Melinn for an episode on people who have lost a child to suicide.?

For all those tuning into Maria’s bogus interview on Fox, here is what you need to know…

Who gets arrested on felonious assault charges for trying to run her ex over with the car in full view of her children and yet claims to be a domestic violence advocate/expert?
Answer: abuser Maria Melinn!!

Who is laughing and talking about being “camera ready” when being interviewed about their own child’s suicide? Answer: abuser Maria Melinn!!!

Who files a $10 million dollar lawsuit for Michael’s wrongful death, served on the grieving family on the anniversary of his suicide? Answer: abuser Maria Melin!!!

We completely understand how some abused mothers are not getting justice in court. However, documented proof shows Maria is NOT one of these mothers yet she continues to pretend to be a victim of family court corruption to draw attention to herself, and in the process she continues to damage her children–and put unwanted attention on them. Maria has shown little concern for her children’s safety and privacy, these are not the actions of a sincere protective mother.

Let’s not forget Maria manipulated her way into getting an interview with Able 2 UK just like she is doing with Fox.. Able 2 UK: Hannah Melinn replies to her mother, Maria Melinn’s, interview exposing the lies

http://www.able2uk.com/News/Disabilities/EXCLUSIVE-Hannah-Melinn-replies-to-ABLE2UK.html

Michael’s Wish Exposing the truth about Maria Melinn, There is MUCH More Documentation and Proof About Maria’s Lies, and the Hurt She Has Caused her Family, at this Link: http://michaelswish.com/

“Victims of Judge Gardner”, Maria Melinn and Bestie Deanna Kloostra created this FB page that borders on stalking and includes inappropriate disclosures of information about public officials, unfounded allegations that have the potential to cause damage and libel and vulgar comments. They just throw out statements without having documented proof, see for yourself: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Victims-of-Judge-Gardner/149550385144002


***************** READER UPDATES ********************************

Robin Renee
michaelswish.com
robinsmith20012001@yahoo.com
66.87.83.122 Submitted on 2013/05/13 at 5:59 pm
****Reader Update****
This is why you cannot find Maria’s DV record
Michigan’s Domestic Violence First Offender Program
If you have committed a Domestic Violence for the first time you may be eligible to get your case dismissed under Michigan’s Domestic Violence First Offender Program (the Spousal Abuse Act MCL §769.4a). Regardless of whether the alleged victim consents, the prosecutor must consent or the judge lacks power to impose this program.

Generally the Defendant is placed on probation and the court will dismiss the case upon successful completion. Many times probation in Michigan’s Domestic Violence First Offender Program includes: no contact with the victim, domestic violence classes, paying fines and costs and other provisions

****Reader Update****
FOX was contacted prior to airing and decided not to air Maria Melinn’s interview.

From StopAbuse: “Maria’s interview never appeared on FOX. Why? Because as soon as we got wind of it, we contacted every news outlet in Grand Rapids and provided them with the truth about Maria Bauer Melinn, along with all documentation showing her history of spousal abuse (in front of the children), larceny (for which she has an order to seize property in excess of 19K) and negligent and abusive parenting of her children (police reports, pictures, parenting assessments, court transcripts, etc). Her begged for “spot” was immediately yanked by FOX, and we can nearly assure you not a news outlet in that area will be interested in hearing what she has to say again.…Maria’s reign of terror over the Melinn family and her children is coming to an end. Hopefully, by the time we are done, she will be in jail where she belongs with the rest of the abusers and thieves…”

From Robin Renee: “This is why you cannot find Maria’s DV record
Michigan’s Domestic Violence First Offender Program. If you have committed a Domestic Violence for the first time you may be eligible to get your case dismissed under Michigan’s Domestic Violence First Offender Program (the Spousal Abuse Act MCL §769.4a). Regardless of whether the alleged victim consents, the prosecutor must consent or the judge lacks power to impose this program.

Generally the Defendant is placed on probation and the court will dismiss the case upon successful completion. Many times probation in Michigan’s Domestic Violence First Offender Program includes: no contact with the victim, domestic violence classes, paying fines and costs and other provisions.”

Happy Mother’s Day (Quote Wolf & Mother)

“When I first arrived in Norway, people told me that there weren’t any wolves left, save for one lone female, passing through on her way back to Russia..

The loss of the wolf is like the loss of a mother. Somewhere she roams in memory, in darkness. Our bond with her is inexplicable, before the beginning of time. She is fierce love; she is sorrow. She is howling in the wilderness we can never see, calling us home. She is what we fear–and what we long to return to–the heat of the cave and animal closeness, before all civilization and reason.”

–Mira Bartok, p. 241, “The Memory Palace”. Free Press: 2011. A daughter’s memoir about Bartok’s mentally ill mother, their relationship and the impact of her mother’s illness on her life. Bartok uses art and writing throughout this book to make sense of her experiences, and find peace among the madness.

What will Battered Mothers Custody Conference Do When Confronted with Truth?????

The A.T.W team of researchers and writers have worked long and hard to root out the truth about certain victim rights advocates to expose liars and abusers within victim advocacy organizations.Our intention is to prevent the honest mother – truly being victimized by family court- from being re- victimized, saving herself and her children from experiencing even more pain and heartache.

We call these abusive advocates “wolves in sheep’s clothing.”

We back up our findings with documented proof in the form of public police reports, public court documents, and various screen shots in our subjects’own words.
(See A.T.W.’s Intention and Purpose: http://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/mission-among-the-wolves/)

Our research has uncovered some disturbing information

American Mothers Political Party (AMPP) and it’s co-founders Claudine Dombrowski and Lorraine Tipton have spread numerous libel around the internet bashing certain mother rights’ leaders and professionals. To date we count 12+ different sites attached to AMPP spewing their hate and vile lies.

See:

California Protective Parents (CPPA) and their leader Connie Valentine Supports Hate Group (examples of online attacks, libel, & complaints against AMPP)

http://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/cppa-supports-hate-group-2/

Center for Judicial Excellence( CJE) and their leader Kathleen Russell Reportedly “Share Same Values” and “Work Very Closely Together” with AMPP:

Lorraine Tipton on the BMCC (the steely cold side of mother’s rights unmasked and unedited)

http://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/lorraine-tipton-bmcc/

Lorraine Tipton/Rainy68 Hate Video

Claudine Dombrowski & the BMCC: Abuser in the Spotlight http://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/abuser-in-the-spotlight/

According to Claudine: “So simply put. “Advocates are the same slough of people who have personal agendas – usually none care at all about the victims…I am not an advocate.”

http://janicelevinson.blogspot.com/2013_04_01_archive.html

ATW exposes these individuals catching them in their lies and revealing the abusers that they are. Although our blog has become wildly popular and has many hits in a short amount of time, we are puzzled by the reaction of some other advocates and professionals within the victim advocacy movement.

ATW has posted the link to our blog around Facebook and on other internet blogs in order to unveil the truth- backed up with proof-about these “wolves in sheep’s clothing”.

Twice ATW posted a link to our blog on a well known professional’s Facebook wall and twice our link was removed.( we have the screen shots to prove it). ATW also posted a link on the BMCC facebook event wall and this was also removed. We ask why is this???

Let us be clear; A.T.W respects these professionals and the work that they do, but we are perplexed with their reluctance to stand up for the truth in this matter. Yet they call others to action and motivate them to stand up for the truth and expose family court corruption. Isn’t their mission to advocate for the truth, and give it a voice? Isn’t their mission to advocate against abuse and abusers?

One of the organizations and professionals being bashed is PMA and Lundy Bancroft. The advocates, leaders and professionals within the victim advocacy movement all have stated many times that they respect and admire Lundy Bancroft. Why won’t any of these professionals and advocates defend Lundy Bancroft and help reveal the truth? Why was our link removed?

See:
AMPP Attack Mothers Wage War-Blitzkreig PMA, Lundy & Janice (Examples of harassment, libel and false accusations made by AMPP against PMA. AMPP wages “war”, states Janice Levinson’s phone number will be written in “various bathroom stalls in Florida” and attacks against Lundy Bancroft including
that he is (quote) ” all around a-hole of the whole ‘mothers rights’ movement. “)

http://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/04/05/ampp-wage-war-pma

Lawless America and Bill Windsor is another organization and advocate under attack. The relentless, ridiculous lies, and death threats from AMPP and “allies” have resulted in family stressors for Bill. He is not allowed to see his grandchildren due to the families’ fear of the actions of AMPP and other bullies. You may not agree philosophically with Bill, but he does not deserve this abuse-no one does.

See
Truth on Trial: Bill Windsor Has His Day in Court (Vicious attacks and lies bring Windsor into court to face his accusers. The accusers plan their victory over Windsor, even fantasizing that Windsor will be raped in a prison shower. Claudine and Lorraine openly supports these abusive bullies, and has joined their page–as well as other members of AMPP)

http://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/bill-windsor-in-court/

Bill Windsor: I fear for my safety and the safety of my family

http://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/windsor-fear-for-safety/

Claudine Dombrowski: Holocaust Hypocrite (Includes list of hate sites attacking Bill Windsor and PMA, and calling both a Nazi and worse..)

http://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/claudine-holocaust-hypocrite/

So this begs the question. Why? Why the silence from those who can help stop this atrocious, criminal behavior from AMPP and allies.

Claudine Dombrowski (direct quote) “Sue me you fucking freek. I dare you, to bring that fat ass to to the land of OZ. You will need a lot more than target lessons to take me on. You will need an ENTIRE army.” http://abusiveadvocates.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/claudine-dombrowski-wizard-fantasy/

Why do intelligent professionals continue to support these abusers? Why would any reasonable, intelligent professional and leader knowingly continue to have their name attached to such criminal behavior.

Why?????

Lorraine Tipton on the BMCC (The steely cold side of “mother’s rights” unmasked and unedited)

Lorraine Tipton aka Mama Liberty is co-founder of American Mothers Political Party (AMPP), a supposed victim advocacy group for domestic violence survivors (mothers) struggling with custody battles. AMPP has recently been labelled as a hate group for its vulgarity, bullying and online stalking. Under the name Rainy68 (she was born in 1968), Lorraine has created several YouTube videos for AMPP including hate videos directed at Bill Windsor (Lawless America). Lorraine refers to AMPP as “a bunch of talking vaginas”.

In 2011, AMPP was invited to speak at the BMCC. Its presenters include: “AMERICAN MOTHERS POLITICAL PARTY, Nancy Carroll, Claudine Dombrowski. Randi James, Melanie Smith, and
Lorraine Tipton”.
http://www.batteredmotherscustodyconference.org/american_mothers_political_party.htm

Lorraine attended the BMCC representing herself as a domestic violence and family court survivor. She claims to be an advocate for abused women. She was invited to speak, and represented herself as a part of the Mother’s Rights Movement. Lorraine said the right words, smiled at the right times..maybe she even shed a tear or two. Did those at the BMCC realize there was a wolf in sheep’s clothing roaming among their ranks?

You will see here, Lorraine Tipton’s own account of the BMCC…the gossip, lies, backstabbing and abusive behavior of a so-called victim advocate. You will see Lorraine maliciously attacking a protective mother, who at the time, was in a wheelchair. You will see Lorraine attempting to discredit Lundy Bancroft, and smear his good reputation with her lies. You will see Lorraine bashing other victim advocacy groups including Mothers of Lost Children (MOLC), Protective Mothers Alliance (PMA) and the “f–n acronym” groups. Lorraine boasts that she has enough to write a book. You will see Lorraine trying to win your sympathy, claiming she is a victim–and she doesn’t know why people hate AMPP. And then Lorraine has the audacity to say she is an “advocate” in the “Mother’s Rights Movement” while she spent this whole conference ignoring the real issues and concerns of protective moms to pursue her own selfish interests. And if that were not enough, Lorraine goes on the Joeys blog to mock, laugh and further humiliate the BMCC and innocent attendees, who have no idea that they are confiding in and trusting someone who clearly does not have their best interest at heart. Lorraine is laughing at a time when everyone else is focused on the crisis in family courts, and the egregious injustice done to survivors of domestic violence and their children.

Keep these words in mind when see Lorraine Tipton at this year’s BMCC..you could be the next character in her “Once Upon a Time”.

(Posting only the most relevant comments from the Joeys blog. But the narrative from Lorraine Tipton is posted in its entirety here. This is NOT an endorsement of any groups, individuals, or ideas. ATW does not condone libel, hate speech or any forms of abuse–it is our mission to expose the abusers wherever they may hide, especially when they hide among victim advocacy groups.)

Roo February 2, 2013 at 12:17 AM
Maybe this can be “story time” and get down and dirty about Shannon Wilson aka Nancy Carroll et al.
Festival_Girls

ONCE UPON A TIME. .

Yappy February 2, 2013 at 12:32 AM
smh the guy is an idiot. It’s so clearly easy to see he’s using AMPP for any and all connections / mothers and women. He’s just tossing you all into the same lump of coal and sets it on fire. If he says it often enough, his lemmings continue the lie.

BILTARD! YOU DUMBASS. AMPP is NOT to blame for all the shit going on. You coward, you soulless heartless brainless coward. You don’t lie? Blaming AMPP is the biggest lie in this entire fiasco.

He’s digging his own grave Roo and his minions have given him all the shovels to help him out. Wait for that self-built pedestal to tumble. THE BIGGER THEY ARE.. the harder they fall, it will come.

AnonymousFebruary 2, 2013 at 12:55 AM
Well ya gotta give credit where credit is due. AMPP IS the battered rights movement. All the other groups look to Claudine as the (forgive me Claudine) stereotypical battered mother. Members of all the other groups are also associated or have been associated with AMPP at one time or other. Lorraine Tipton and Janice Levinson were the best of friends for a long time too. Janice is in charge of a mom’s group and Lorraine is co founder of AMPP. MOLC has strong ties to AMPP too, Shannon Wilson was the main blogger for AMPP and may still be, she was also heavily involved with MOLC at the same time because the moms groups don’t demand loyalty…PMA tries to but it doesn’t work very well. These moms go get what they need where ever they can get it from and often that means the resources of several groups. Course now Joey’s blog can be added to the mix…however…they are also tainted by the AMPP kiss of death.

Lorraine Tipton February 2, 2013 at 1:04 AM
SAY WHAT???

Lorraine Tipton February 2, 2013 at 1:08 AM
Come on ANONYMOUS show your face chicken shit or do you want to cower behind your pie man’s skirt?

Do you REALLY want to go there?
Steroid_Girls

Shannon Wilson is as much of a part of AMPP as janus levinson and I are “besties”. roflmao!!

This is gonna get good, because unlike you I don’t hide behind an “anonymous” or “nickname” when it counts. You ready?
I AM

Anonymous February 2, 2013 at 1:17 AM
LOL come on Lorraine…tell me you didn’t push Shannon around at the BMCC in her wheelchair and tell me you were not Janices right hand for a time….come on. LOL. Not trying to start trouble here, just stating that the groups have joined forces before in times of strife and the members are intertwined.

Lorraine Tipton February 2, 2013 at 1:21 AM
ONCE UPON A TIME. . .

CHAPTER ONE

In the year of 2009, from May-Nov, I was “admin asst/slave” to levinson. Then I got wise to her ways, which are eerily the same as Adolph Windsor’s. She stole others writing and art work and took credit for it. (<–ATW Note See Lie Vs Fact Check, Showing the artwork was NOT stolen as proven by screenshots from its creator)

On Nov. 13, 2009 I went to jail for "custodial interference" but not because I was keeping the child from her sexual abusive father (substantiated by CPS and you can ask her she's 14 and really has a mouth now) but that HE wasn't picking her up. When I got out of jail, four days later, after it took four police and two hours for daddy to TAKE his child as he whined so badly to the judge about, but he wanted me in jail instead. (yeah GREAT dad). The judge was informed by the sheriff's dept. what this jackass did and was finally on to his little game. He was told NOT to use his child as a "pawn" to get back at his ex. (DUH). I was released from jail and found that janice levinson had changed the facebook page that PMA (protective mothers alliance) had made for my daughter and I to: "National Wiccan Organization" (I have the screen shots still, and I'm not a "wiccan" as was suggested but I am fond of witches, but the "mean girl" in her just HAD to get her revenge because her slave quit. I also would add that I was her second slave she since the first one ran off. My replacement?? Maria Bauer-Melinn.( ATW note; Janice Levinson stated Lorraine hi-jacked a FB page shutting her out. Quote: “Our original Face book page was hi-jacked by Lorraine Tipton and Cara Wilson who then open the flood gates allowing Claudine and other AMPP ers in and forcing me out……They have done so much more to even post here, but this will give you a good idea of what they do to fellow protective mothers.”)

http://venturephilosophy.blogspot.com/2013/01/american-mothers-political-party-is.html

By the way, I DON'T LIE, in fact I HATE, LOATHE, DESPISE LIARS.

Who's ready for chapter two???

Lorraine TiptonFebruary 2, 2013 at 1:36 AM
CHAPTER TWO

January, 2010, Battered Mothers Custody Conference in Albany NY. All ORIGINAL “BADASSES” aka AMPP’s were in attendance. From Claudine to Shannon Wilson.
wicked-witch-of-the-west
Poor little Shannon had broken her leg in August of 2009 and was STILL in a wheelchair and severely dependent on pain killers. (probably still is) We all got “adjoining” roooms with Randi, Claudine, our Aussie mom, Shannon, myself, one other mother with a gag order whom I won’t mention but we’ll call her “Spitfire” and Jay Sutter (Kathy Lee Schlopp’s boy toy).

Jay offered to help defer the costs because like this ensuing trip to DC for the lemmings it’s quite costly, but we all KNEW each other. Jay slept on a cot that the hotel was nice enough to bring in. Brokedown Shannon was in a fret because the year before she was screwed out of money from another, Sandra Kie, for not giving her money for the room. So we wanted to make sure that didn’t happen to poor little Shannon again.

We questioned Jay’s relationship w/Killa Lee and he told us she was batshit crazy and had served him in Nov. with her own “handmade” restraining order (I’d say that is batshit crazy). So the show went on and it was actually JAY pushing Shannon’s ass all around up and down to eat or to see one of her “idols” speak at certain BMCC events. The only meals I ate were the ones that the Aussie mom bought for me as I had $10 to my name. But man, those pain killers must make ya hungry cuz Shannon got her four squares a day.

I wasn’t interested in listening to the speakers, the only one I cared to see and did was Barry Goldstein. I regret the night we had to participate with Renee Beeker’s stupid meeting as we had Bancroft sitting directly across from us and staring a hole (why DOES he do that?!)

I will give the BMCC credit about it’s “organization” unlike the disorganization pie boy has going on. They have authors and speakers hawking their wares for a low low price of $99 for a book by Bancroft that basically tells you what you know and what women want to hear. The rumor per levinson is that we alledgely called him a “fraud” or something, but we never have. Levinson didn’t even SHOW up! She got scared when she heard AMPP was coming to town.

Ready for chapter three? Cuz it gets REAL good

Lorraine TiptonFebruary 2, 2013 at 1:59 AM
Chapter Three

After all the hoopla and the BMCC ended Sunday night (thank god) most of the peeps left. We all decided to leave on Monday to give us time to relax etc.

I wound up going with the Aussie mom and Jay to Applebee’s (I think, can’t remember but you know). Jay let the Aussie drive his truck. I recommend that NO ONE ever get into a vehicle with a person from a country that drives on the opposite side of the road, ever! Had dinner and drinks at the restaurant and met some nice Albany folks who loved our Aussie lassie’s “accent”. WE all did, she is a beautiful woman inside and out.

We got back to hotel and decided to go to the pool and hot tub and have a few drinks. (<–ATW Note; AMPP, the Joeys & supporters were making totally false and vulgar comments about Bill Windsor and an alleged hot tub incident that never happened, and yet here is Lorraine admitting to being in the hot tub with the "boy toy" and the "Aussie"..why isn't anyone finding humor in this?)
By this time boy toy was gaga over Aussie. So of course she asks him what his relationship status really is with Killa, since all we could see that he was her errand boy. I mean the woman WAS in the same hotel but in a different room…whY???

Boy toy finally reveals that there wasn’t much to their relationship, etc. etc. Later that evening as we all had to get much needed sleep to get the hell up for our flights, lust was in the air. Whoever was left over we all slept in one room and left the Aussie and Boy Toy to themselves. Now, I wasn’t listening at the door to two CONSENTING adults but I guess we can presume what happened and I really could give two shits about it.

OMG

The following day we all left, boy toy gave aussie ride to New York City and we all headed home. Sigh of relief. You would think, right?

NOPE. Shannon goes and tattle tales on the sleeping arrangements to Killa and all hell breaks loose. Calls, emails from Killa threatening if I or others didn’t TELL her what happened. How would I know?? How would anyone?? Not like we were all sitting around watching the alleged “action”!!

Come to find out months afterwards that Killa and Jay were secretly married, go figure a guy lies to get laid! So then we are hated, all the AMPP’s EXCEPT one, the tattler. She stood by her “sister” Killa like any good tattler would.

Conveniently, on March 15 (Ides of March) Shannon starts whining and complaining behind my back that I was “hijacking” the MOLC even in DC for Mother’s Day. Et tu Brute? Doesn’t that sound familiar “hijack” an event?? roflmao! All because I made some videos and other stuff to get mothers involved. Then the kicker. Some of the others who gave this wheelchair bound drugged up dinkus MONEY for the room, were told that the Aussie PAID FOR THE WHOLE F***ING weekend and Scammin Shannon pocketed their money!! hahahahahhaha! She left AMPP and we didn’t let the door hit her wheels on the way out.

So THAT is why MOLC, PMA and every other effin acronym HATE us. And for what?? Not putting our noses in others business?? Not putting up with “grifters”? (<–ATW Note, We can't verify the comments regarding Mothers of Lost Children. Our research has shown that PMA is a "no abuse zone" and does not work with abusers, regardless of gender. ATW has provided our readers with proof that AMPP, Claudine Dombrowski, Lorraine Tipton, etc are clearly abusers.)

So there, the truth is OUT. Now what?? Screen shots? How about some emails/voicmails from Killa or levinson?? I save EVERYTHING, I’m a hoarder of collection of idiocy.

I could care less what any of them think, I did nothng wrong but catch a few in lies and like I said I HATE LIARS! (ATW NOTE; You must hate yourself Lorraine, since you are the proven liar)

yappyFebruary 2, 2013 at 2:02 AM
This is the greatest bedtime story of all times! Hands down!!

Just a little snicker in chapter one? I have screenshots where Connie Bedwell kept boasting how Lundy Bancroft was making a NY Broadway play about her life. ummm yah. ok then.

continue on Lorraine, I have to catch up

Lorraine TiptonFebruary 2, 2013 at 2:18 AM
Oh yes, Bancroft, the VERY expensive “expert” that you can hire to come to your court and tell them all what they DON’T want to hear. Last I heard he was writing a screenplay and starting his own RELIGION! Hopefully it isn’t one where everyone has to share his “seed” but I doubt it. With all his books, plays, screen plays and “retreats” this guy is making BIG bucks off of unsuspecting mothers. So if that’s calling him a FRAUD so fucking be it.

So they all start rumors about us and say how mean we are or how we “bashed”them. (ATW note: We have presented much proof of AMPP’s “bashing” and cyber-bullying) Give me a break! I know a few, including Spitfire who can verify that EVERYTHING in this little bedtime story is VERITAS.

So little scaredy cat ANON @12:55, show your face like any truth teller would. I have a feeling who you are but you have NO idea who I AM and I don’t take shit from liars.

Oh and footnote to another of levinson’s “vistions”. She told me that God came to her and advised her that: “Thou shall not have any “Maria’s” in her group” (disclaimer: I’m not sure if he really said “thou” but the rest is true).

But lo and behold who comes to replace my position?? MARIA!!!! How DO you solve a problem like her? lol! She went against God’s will and was punished for then Maria and levinson parted ways. Gee, how many headcount of “admin asst” do we have for PMA in less than a year to janus, THREE.

AnonymousFebruary 2, 2013 at 2:26 AM
So I TRULY can’t wait to see what happens in DC w/the pie f***er and his lemmings.

yappyFebruary 2, 2013 at 2:44 AM
I have a hard time with anyone who seeks out $$$ from desperate moms needing help. Lundy absolutely takes advantage of so many and he’s very good at it. Dr. Saturley from Florida attempted the same with some stupid ass book ‘How to lose a custody battle’ E-book but he bombed from what I heard.

Who the hell needs a retreat when they need to clothe and feed their babies? All of Lundy’s info is out there, they just have to spend a day digging.

Lorraine, do you recall a couple of years back when Connie claimed on your radio-blog that the producer of Breaking the Silence was going to film her during the Christmas season? Of course Connie was the ONLY one they were filming this time around, so she said. Hmmm odd isn’t it.

I wrote a blog about it and wasn’t too nice to y’all about not calling her on her BS at the time BUT you and Claudine both tried to question her the best you could. I knew her story was baloney and there were people who sat out near her house all weekend with a cam to record her fictional producers arrival. Weekend came and went and zippo! She even sent her roommate Amber to San Francisco for the weekend so there was no ‘proof’ of this producer at Ambers home.

I wrote to Dominique Lasseur to verify Connie’s story was just hot air out of her ass and they were furious to say the least. I never uploaded the reply because it would just infuriate everyone and I wasn’t about to begin to rip apart the PBS documentary.

Anyway I’m sorry if I was hard on your AMPP group. It was merely my incredulous frustration how Connie was getting away with manipulating so many people and blatantly lying about it all.

So this woman had visions from God too? What’s with these type of people. Conster has birds and dreams and visions and every spring that comes along is THEE spring her lighting will strike literally in all the courtrooms and all her worlds problems will end.

Gee speaking of that, look at her latest little post:

Connie Bedwell-Tuma Today? How about this whole week starting last Shabbat.. My goodness.. Spring time shall be fun I’ve been waiting too long for this..
about an hour ago via mobile ·

SMH, this spring will come and go, her dad will be convicted and she’ll have to await her next Spring for new hope.

Thanks for the post and info Lorraine, its very fascinating to read about so many players and the games they play. I am absolutely fascinated by human behavior. and like you I HATE liars… especially the likes of Billy and the hell he’s putting everyone through simply to feed his sociopathic meltdowns.

I cannot comprehend all the drama. Are these people REALLY for real?? I expect you’re about to receive some real nasty emails and threats… of course as usual, they’re always all empty threats because you spoke out.

Lorraine TiptonFebruary 2, 2013 at 3:10 AM
You know yappy, I never wanted this. Scammin actually “squatted” off of C for a loooooooooong ass time. I think she was pissed off that me and C decided to go balls to the wall w/AMPP and she was left out in the cold. AMPP was an idea that was thought up and put into action in about a weeks time.

I could actually write my own book about all these fools. I understand if you thought we were wrong in listening to her but that’s just what we did and still do. Because I don’t need an “expert” on family court or dv issues, the “experts” are the ones that actually LIVED it. We’ve never taken a dime from any mother or father for that matter (we do have a few of those, they don’t like the FR and their ways of bullying) We’re not in this for the glory, it’s all GUTS here. We’ve put ourselves out there and have been ridiculed but for what reason? You got julia fletcher screaming unity but yet she turns a blind eye to her master bill. They call us bullies when we stand up for ourselves and dont bend over and ask for another one.
Truly, they can all go to hell.

We get called names, “Feminatzis” or other colorful names but I’m immune to it, I really am. After being verbally abused on the daily names begin to have no meaning.

I hate to say it but it all stems from jealousies, these groups think they are going to be the “one” to bring down the family courts. HA! I’m not delustional and I know it won’t happen in my lifetime. We never declared AMPP of being the “one”. We’re a well rounded group of humans from all walks of life. I lean left and C leans right. Do we fight over politics? NO. We have ADULT conversations about it and healthy debates but we never ONCE have gotten angry at each other. Our goal, brass bell is to educate, empower and listen to the moms, that’s it. No illusions of grandeur, no egos, nada. So yeah, whatever, they can call me a bitch just because I won’t allow anyone to use me as a doormat. This drama is just the tip of the iceberg. The steely cold side of “mother’s rights” unmasked and unedited.

From- http://www.joeyisalittlekid.blogspot.com/2013/02/billy-starts-to-panic.h tml

Shannon Wilson
Renee Beeker
Lundy Bancroft
Bill Windsor
BMCC
PMA
MOLC
Jay Sutter
Killa

Janice Levinson
Naomi Chambers

Who will be AMPP’s next target for libel and abuse!??
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