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LIE VS. FACT CHECK: Who is Gathering Information About the Mothers?

WHO IS GATHERING INFORMATION ABOUT MOTHERS                                             AND CREATING A DATABASE??

 Lie vs. Fact Check Intro:

As we meander down this truth seeking path together, there are some lies so outrageous that you have to see it to believe it. We at A.T.W. are all for exposing the Lies vs. Fact Check.

This is how it will go:

1) We will quote the lie, and post the source it came from.
2) This will be immediately be followed by a quote of the facts, with proof

THE LIE:

Claudine Dombrowski, AMPP, has accused Bill Windsor of Lawless America of being connected to “Father’s Rights” and made accusations that he is creating a database to collect the information of abuse victims. Claudine has led her “Attack Mothers” aka supporters to harass, stalk, defame and threaten Bill Windsor.. as seen in this screenshot from Adrema Barbee Higgins.

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THE TRUTH:

Bill Windsor has previously issued a statement that he does not charge money to anyone appearing on Lawless America and he has created the documentary for a sincere purpose to help victims of government abuse and corruption,Lawless America does not charge a plug nickel for anything on our site or any help that we may be able to offer anyone.  I do all of this for no compensation of any type.  I do it out of the goodness of my heart — trying to battle corruption and help victims…”

Bill also explains that those appearing in “Lawless” are asked to provide basic contact information, and are voluntarily asked to provide that information as part of being in the film, this is a standard professional practice and is legally required,No one will be in the movie unless they provide their name, address phone number, email, and employment status. Anyone who takes the utterly ridiculous position that such information is identity theft needs mental help, in my opinion. These are people out to undermine this movie because the movie has the greatest chance of exposing the corruption and getting something done about it that any of us have yet seen... EVERYONE who appears in the movie will have to sign a release that allows us unlimited use of your likeness in promotion of the movie. Don’t sign the release, and you won’t be in the movie. This is a legal requirement that every movie must follow.”

See Full Statement of Bill Windsor on the “Lawless” movie release, and false accusations from Roxanne Grinage (Hire Lyrics): http://www.lawlessamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=798:roxanne-grinage-of-hirelyricsorg-is-the-latest-person-to-attempt-to-interfere-with-production-of-lawless-americathe-movie&catid=133:lawless-america-the-movie&Itemid=105

The Truth: Claudine offers no evidence, documentation or other proof to substantiate this ridiculous claim, one of many lies she has waged against her (quote) “hit list“...she just wants you to take her word. And Claudine’s word so far has involved profanity, death threats, degrading comments about women and defamation. Clearly, Claudine’s word is not to be believed. 

Who’s the REAL Stalker?

 

The Truth: Claudine aka Petunia Pig has been gathering her own “database” to collect information about the mothers coming to her for help, and is giving the information to an un-named 3rd party. Claudine is doing exactly what she accuses others of doing!

2009, Petunia Pig on ‘Glenn’s Cult’ “I am in the process of cooperating with a fellow blogger in preparing the first ever of it kind database for abused and protective moms. This database will be in place to protect those women new to the family rights scene on the internet.” 

NOTE THE DATE AS 2009- WELL BEFORE BILL WINDSOR BEGAN HIS DOCUMENTARY

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg is collecting information about protective mothers and creating a “database”. How well has Claudine protected these moms from “Father’s Rights”?

 

Who is the “fellow blogger” Claudine is working with??  

We know Claudine has joined forces with the cyberbullies at Joeyisalittlekid whose ranks include a man who allegedy talks to dragons, a man whose YouTube video suggests he has a drinking problem, a pedophile (or two), and people who have attacked other Protective Mothers and their Supporters

And other groups including..

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg is again collecting names for her database, claiming to protect the mothers from “father’s rights”. But who is protecting the mothers from Claudine and AMPP?

 

WHERE, OH WHERE ARE THE “FATHER’s RIGHTS” GROUPS???

Claudine aka Petunia Pigg claims she has to protect the mothers from “father’s rights” groups…See here that this facebook page “Best Interest” is connected to We the People Family Preservation (WTP FP); J Guy F Babineau is one of the founders. We the People supports Father’s Rights, if you visit their website, there is a link to Glenn Sacks; THE Glenn Sacks of Claudine/Petunia’s attack blog–“Glenn’s Cult”.

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 In December 2012, We the People Family Preservation was accused of misappropriating the confidential database of “Lawless America”–which means they have gained access to sensitive information about abused women and protective mothers. Claudine/Petunia was made aware of this in the Best Interest group. This is the exact database Claudine herself had been trying to gain access to. Is it a coincidence that Claudine has NEVER raised concern about We The People and never confronted WTP to protect the Mothers who may have been affected? Why isn’t Claudine doing anything to hold We the People accountable for stealing the information of the mothers?

We the People Family Preservation is connected to Roxanne Grinage, who was a keynote speaker at one of their events. Roxanne has attacked Bill Windsor and “Lawless America”  with various lies and allegations, which are hard to make sense of due to her delusional ramblings, as described in the above link.

Roxanne is connected to American Mothers Political Party, and Lorraine Tipton, and has subscribed to the vulgar videos AMPP posted about Bill on YouTube.

Roxanne was also promoted on the Joey’s blog (who are supporters of AMPP and they have joined forces in cyber bullying), where readers were encouraged to contact her,”NinjaMarch 7, 2103 at 10:01 pm   Whoever has the screen shots of Pie man asking for help finding personal information on people and their SS#s should send it to Roxanne.”

What does this mean? There is collusion between the various groups attacking Bill Windsor and “Lawless America” indicating these attacks are well planned, well coordinated and meant to attack Bill on various fronts with the intent to defame, intimidate, stalk, harass and ultimately shut down “Lawless” and with it, silence victims of government and family court abuse.

Sociopaths seek to “win” at any cost, defending themselves to the point of logical absurdity

A Summary of Facts…

1) Claudine is creating a database of the names and confidential information of abused women and protective moms, since at least 2009. Well before Bill Windsor, and “Lawless America” were in the picture.

2) Claudine says she needs this database to protect the mothers

3) Claudine won’t reveal her sources of who is working with her on this database

4) Claudine has openly denounced Father’s Rights groups and activists but at the same time is active, and posting on a page that connects to, and promotes Father’s Rights. And is working with a group that promotes Glenn Sacks, and links to his site from their own page.

5) Claudine is connected to a group that has “misappropriated” the confidential database of Bill Windsor. Instead of confronting those responsible, she attacks the victim–Bill. Instead of protecting those whose information is at risk, she supports the perpetrator.

6) If Claudine were truly protecting abused women and protective mothers, then why do her actions support those who are harming these same women?

If there is any doubt, ATW is posting another screen shot.. this was taken from a website that was promoted on the Best Interest Page, the same page Claudine/Petunia Pig is active on.

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Mother Goose Award: Claudine Dombrowski “Responsible for the Massive Father’s Rights Movement”

In review of our past posts, ATW has noticed because of the facts we have gathered, Claudine Dombrowski, of AMPP, has largely been presented in a negative light. Because of this, we are thrilled to announce something to report truly positive about Claudine…keeping in mind, that ATW only posts the truth backed up with proof or evidence, we want to take this opportunity to announce a new award specially designed for her.

Hats off to you Claudine aka Petunia Pig of the Glenn’s Cult Blog aka Angelz Fury aka Holocaust Historian Extraordinaire aka The Talking Vaginas aka Rhedde Carpet aka Impersonator of William M. Windsor aka Member of Alzheimer’s Lesbian Support Channel aka Dastardly Dads aka Walk On With Hope in Your Heart and You Will Never Walk Alone aka Powerpuff Girls and all those other aliases used…

The positive news is that Mothers are leaving AMPP, and are seeing the truth about Claudine’s “Wild Goose Chase” known as the American Mothers Political Party (AMPP). 

According to a comment on a page supporting Fathers and parental rights…“(Claudine) has caused a backlash from women in paternal families who are flocking to father’s rights groups in numbers I have never seen before. In essence, her (Claudine Dombrowski) and the likes of Barry Goldstein are responsible for the massive father’s rights movement.”

As such, we are giving Claudine the Mother Goose Award because she has led the Mothers on a “Wild Goose Chase” pretending to be an anti-abuse advocate who then has viciously attacked other Protective Mothers and Advocates like an abuser. Claudine has disgraced the Mother’s Movement and harmed the cause of family court reform  with her outrageous and criminal behavior. 

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This screen shot posted by Claudine showing a woman whipping a man who is wearing a collar with chain connecting to AMPP, with “family court” written across his body, as he bends over on his hands and knees, is one example of how Claudine has disgraced the Mother’s Movement, and why she deserves this award.

Here’s to you Claudine… Honk! Honk!

 

 

 

 

California Safe Child Coalition: Children Should Maintain a Relationship with Abusers

The California Safe Child Coalition Believes Children Should “Maintain a Relationship” with an Abusive Parent… Is this What the Mother’s Movement Stands For?

The point of this article is not debate the merits of supervised visitation but to point out the conflicting messages of some of the leaders in the Mother’s Movement; that, on one hand, say children should be protected from an abuser, even to remove all contact with that parent  and, on the other hand, say an abusing parent deserves a relationship with the child they have harmed—and this relationship should be fostered, and encouraged to grow in supervised visitation (which will lead to unsupervised visits, and likely the alleged abuser will gain custody). SO what does the Mother’s Movement really believe?

 Quote:The California Safe Child Coalition works with national, state and local government agencies, private organizations and individuals to keep children safe.

We seek a massive culture shift in the California court system. We strive to endure that children remain safe in the custody of protective parents, while maintaining relationships with their abusing parents through court-ordered supervised visitation”. This includes parents who have sexually abused children.

 

WHO IS THE CALIFORNIA SAFE CHILD COALITION?

The California Safe Child Coalition is compromised of some of the largest organizations leading the Mother’s Movement today; many who have appeared at the Battered Mothers Custody Conference (BMCC). 

 

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The Center for Judicial Excellence, The Center (CJE). CJE’s Director helped to organize and lead the first ever Mother’s Day Protest at the White House.

Entity Name: CENTER FOR JUDICIAL EXCELLENCE
Entity Number: C2790378
Date Filed: 05/23/2006
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address:
Entity City, State, Zip:
Agent for Service of Process: JEAN A. TAYLOR (President , Co-Founder)

According to the 2010 Tax returns, the CJE Officers are:

Jean Taylor- President

Mary Lee Strebl- Vice-President

Cesar Lagleva- CFO/Treasurer

Royce McLemore-Director

Raphael Durr- Director

Marivic Bay Mabanag- Director

According to the taxes, these are all unpaid positions, working an average of 10-25 hours a week. CJE takes in a large amount of monetary donations, of which only $25 a year is membership dues (see below “Kathleen Russell and CJE Money Trail”).

California Protective Parents Association (CPPA)

Entity Name: CALIFORNIA PROTECTIVE PARENTS ASSOCIATION
Entity Number: C2178228
Date Filed: 10/06/1999
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address:
Entity City, State, Zip:
Agent for Service of Process: KAREN ANDERSON

NOTE: CPPA originally opened as a charity and  later re-established itself as a corporation.

114556 Charity Current SACRAMENTO CA Charity Registration Charity

Karen Anderson (Director of CPPA)  has lobbied for legislation to limit the Court’s ability to order supervised visits for parents accused of sexually abusing their children. She is also a mediator working with families involved in the court system, working as a Certified Mediator in accordance with the California Dispute Resolution Programs. Anderson also calls supervised visitation a scam and a racket.

 

Mothers of Lost Children (MOLC)

Results of search for “Mothers of Lost Children” returned no entity records

Note: On Feb. 14, 2011 Karen Anderson (CPPA) held a protest with Mothers of Lost Children in Washington, D.C. to “protest the enormous expenditure or tax dollars to help get ex-prisoners and known abusers connect with their children, and the heartbreak for mothers when this funding is misused and misapplied.”  http://crispe.org/forum/index.php?topic=4667.0;wap2

 

Child Abuse Solutions (CAS), Child Abuse Solutions, Inc.

Results of search for “CHILD ABUSE SOLUTIONS” returned no entity records as being a corporation in California.
CAS is supposed to be an educational non-profit but no results were found at the National Center for Charitable Statistics. The information for CAS traces back to Meera Fox Attorney at Law.

 

Incest Survivors Speakers Bureau of California (ISSBC)

A “grassroots” organization of mothers raising awareness of child sexual abuse. ISSBC offers conferences, training, and accepts donations, filtering the money through CPPA: http://www.issb.us/donations.html. Results of search for “CHILD ABUSE SOLUTIONS” returned no entity records as being a corporation in California, and no results found of ISSBC found as a non-profit.

ISSB California Officers
Executive Director and Founding Member- Andrea Ransdell
Legislative Director- Heather Markert,
Research Adviser and Founding Member- Kathy Dreyer

The California Safe Child Coalition

Results of search for “The California Safe Child Coalition” returned no entity records.

 

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THE CONTRADICTION: QUOTES FROM THOSE IN THE MOTHER’S MOVEMENT AGAINST SUPERVISED VISITATION BETWEEN A CHILD & AN ALLEGED ABUSER

These statements from advocates and mothers in the Mother’s Movement directly challenge California Safe Child Coalition’s statement that abusive parents deserve a relationship with the children they have abused, and that relationship should be fostered in supervised visitation.  Keep in mind, the purpose of supervised visitation is temporary, and almost always results in unsupervised visitation, and increased custody.

Many of these leaders/advocates/mothers believe that a child who has been abused will be at risk for further abuse if they continue to have a relationship with a parent who has harmed them in the past, and that placing a child in supervised visitation with an abuser is traumatic. Many of these voices come from mothers who have been through the family court system, have dealt with supervised visitation, and witnessed its failures.

So who is the California Safe Child Coalition fighting for, and why??

From Barry GoldsteinWe have seen repeatedly that courts create an urgency to restore normal visitation to fathers even in the face of serious safety risks…The(re is) disparity in how supervised visitation is handled between mothers and fathers…the courts that couldn’t wait to resume visitation with a dangerous father are willing to delay years before resuming normal visitation with a safe mother…”

And, “Instead of pressuring mothers to cooperate with their abusers they can be using their power and authority to require him to stop his abuse if he wants to have a relationship with the children. It is important for legislators and court professionals to understand that children do not need both parents equally. They need the safe parent more than the abusive one and their primary attachment figure more than their other parent. ..” “The Broken Court System: Is There Reason for Hope?” by Barry Goldstein: http://www.barrygoldstein.net/important-articles

 

From “Family Court Matters” : FCM posted an article on corruption and greed within the supervised visitation provider network, many of their comments also seem applicable to California Safe Child Coalition.. “Why, becomes the question, would an anti-domestic violence (“End Domestic Violence” indicates they want it to stop) be collaborating with the infamous Supervised Visitation Field, which is known to spring out of the father’s rights and welfare reform fountain?”

 

And,Again, I have to ask, how could such a well-known (in the field) group go for so long absent any corporate existence? Not registered with the State of California to do business in California–but it sure looks like they are consistently billing and being paid to do business in California….” “Good Cause to Eliminate (Funding for): Access Visitation, Supervised Visitation, and Batterer’s Intervention, PERIOD!” http://familycourtmatters.wordpress.com/2013/11/29/good-cause-to-eliminate-funding-for-access-visitation-supervised-visitation-and-batterers-intervention-period/

From The Liz Library: “Supervised visitation cannot continue indefinitely, and controlling, violent, or child molesting parents aren’t going to change. So what is the point? ….

It’s a band-aid for 10 weeks, or 6 months, or whatever, and then the abusive parent will most likely go back to court, after behaving “safely” or “nicely” in the presence of supervisors, and get unsupervised visitation. The supervised visitation center will have made money, the parents will have lost money, the litigation will have remained open, the abusive parent will be even more angry and resentful, additional therapies and interventions will be recommended and tried (all as the abuse fades into the past and claimed irrelevancy), and overall, the entire situation will be even more miserable than it was before for the victims.” — The Liz Library, “Endless $tupidity: domestic violence victim advocacy for supervised visitation centers (Endless stupidity or professional self-interest–there’s no other choice.)” http://www.thelizlibrary.org/site-index/site-index-frame.html#soulhttp://www.thelizlibrary.org/supervised-visitation/supervised-visitation-stupidity.html

National Safe Child Coalition: Posted an article on August 12, 2103 about a man who killed his child during supervised visitation to spite his ex. NSCC followed with these thoughts, “They have dangerous people ordered into supervised visitation at the YMCA while protective parents who pose no threat are ordered into prison like rooms for supervised visitation with their children.”

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KATHLEEN RUSSELL AND CJE’S MONEY TRAIL INVESTIGATED BY FAMILYLAWCOURTS.COM: WHAT TAX RETURNS REVEAL

Source: http://www.familylawcourts.com/non_profits.html

Family Law Courts is investigating “DV advocates who don’t want to see women empowered” and they claim most advocates are corrupt, and in the business to make a profit, not help victims of abuse. 

Family Law Courts has investigated a number of individuals and non-profits including Kathleen Russell of The Center for Judicial Excellence (CJE) aka “The Center”. Kathleen Russell is an unmarried woman with no children who is the co-founder and staff consultant at CJE. Why? Family Law Courts has pulled Russell’s tax records and raised allegations that CJE is just another money making organization within the family court system, similar to what protective mothers are fighting against.

Quote: (2008) “Tax records reveal in one year the Center for Judicial Excellence accepted grants and donations in the amount of $215,052.00 (Line “L”). Of that amount (Line 13) $187,000 went to outside sources. The source?

Page 4, Line 151. Kathleen Russell Consulting.”

Source 2008 Tax Returns Posted on Family Law: http://207.153.189.83/EINS/204892221/204892221_2008_054E013D.PDF

That’s means 86% of grants and donations to CJE went directly to Kathleen Russell Consulting. 

Source 2010 Tax Returns are posted on Family Law: Courts: http://207.153.189.83/EINS/204892221/204892221_2010_07496338.PDF

From 2006-2010, CJE took in $922,323 dollars in grants and contributions, if 86% were paid to Kathleen Russell Consulting that would earn her  $793,198 in 4 years. OR $198,299 dollars a year. With that large amount of money, you would hope to see a more substantial change in family court–not a solution that fosters a relationship between a child and an abuser, and throws the family back into the troubled family court system. 

EVEN CLAUDINE DOMBROWSKI ADMITS: IT’S AL ABOUT THE $$ MONEY $$

Is it so far-fetched that the domestic violence advocates and leaders would compromise their stated goals to protect women and children to make a profit?

One more screen shot to consider…

This was taken from Barry Goldstein’s wall, keep in mind Barry is a former attorney who was disbarred after mishandling money belonging to a non-profit organization. Here Barry is begging his supporters “to contact local dv groups, colleges, and other other organizations that could sponsor (PAY) a program for me to speak at.”

Like Kathleen, Barry works as a speaker and consultant. What is a consultant? Someone who can give advice or share ideas about family court, domestic violence and related issues without a law license; and make a profit from speaking, public engagements, writing books, etc.

Claudine Dombrowski responds with this interesting comment,”Yo gf I’m awake. Eyes wide open 20 yrs. I also know that in the communities the heart people not all enjoy this you use what you can get it in any way you can. Through anyone you can.

It’s your choice. Try to balance like the dv orgs do (there funding is 3/4 fr tagged), or push the truth the common sense. Or…you can keep preaching to the choir… Put it where it needs to be.

 

Claudine Dombrowski: “Get it in any way you can”

Keep asking questions, and be open to uncovering the truth….

Happy Mother’s Day! (Wolf Style)

“The strength of the wolf, is the tenderness shown to it’s pups, encouraging them to thrive in a sometimes brutal, harsh world. For without the pups, there would be no pack.” ~ Anonymous

ATW would like to express our sincere wishes to all the mothers, Happy Mother’s Day!

 

For the Protective Mothers who are grieving the loss or separation of children, you have our support.  ATW honors your love and commitment to your children this Mother’s Day, and always. 

 

Also visit “Happy Mother’s Day: Wolf and Mother Quote”: http://abusiveadvocates.com/2013/05/13/quote-wolf-and-mother/

Breaking News: Unprotective Mother & Killer Melanie Smith, UK

Is Unprotective Mother and Convicted Killer Melanie Smith (UK) connected to UN Mothers and the American Mothers Political Party (AMPP)??

 

BREAKING NEWS: Bill Windsor, Lawless America, has been suspended from Facebook for posting a picture of an unknown woman, who he suspects is part of the gang of “Joeys” who has been stalking and harassing him. Bill posted this photo to ask for help in identifying this woman, and to give her a chance to either retract her remarks or state she did not participate in the online attacks and defamation.

 

WHO IS THIS WOMAN?

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IDENTIFIED AS: Melanie Smith, Australian Mothers Political Party, sister group to American Mothers Political Party (AMPP). Melanie Smith was a presented at the 2010 Battered Mothers Custody Conference, speaking on the Australian Shared Parenting Law Debate. Melanie Smith also represents AMPP’s UN Mothers.

AU Shared Parenting Law Debate: http://aspld.blogspot.com/

5/7/2010: Australian Mothers Political Party Australian Mothers Struggle for human rights. This video reveals the efforts that have been made to continue violence against women and children through the Family Court of Australia.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdxgro_amppau-australian-mothers-struggle_news

NO to Australian Mother Political Party: https://www.facebook.com/pages/NO-to-the-Australian-Mothers-Political-Party-and-other-such-groups/152123351476354

ATW finds it curious that this Melanie Smith looks so similar to convicted killer Melanie Jane Smith

Is Unprotective Mother and killer Melanie Smith connected to AMPP?

Is Unprotective Mother and killer Melanie Smith connected to AMPP?

 

Abusers Win Custody: Melanie Smith won custody of three children after a divorce. She is accused of abusing, neglecting and torturing her children. Melanie could not handle caring for the children and dumped them in foster care one day after winning custody. The Court reversed its decision, apologized, and gave the father custody. Melanie’s children say that she is “the most evil woman in Britain”.

 

ATW finds it curious that Australian Mothers Political Party is now defunct, and basically has no activity except the lone wolf stalking and online harassment by Claudine and a few members.

Facebook Australian Mothers Political Party: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Australian-Mothers-Political-Party/119136814791407

AMPP Blog Talk. Not only is Melanie Smith a follower of AMPP, but Claudine's profile pic also appears on the Australian Mothers Political Party page.

AMPP Blog Talk. Not only is Melanie Smith a follower of AMPP, but Claudine’s profile pic also appears on the Australian Mothers Political Party page.

 

ATW finds it curious that Melanie Smith’s UN Mothers webpage has been taken down.

Melanie Smith and UN Mothers, posted on Lorraine Tipton's blog

Melanie Smith and UN Mothers, posted on Lorraine Tipton’s blog

 

The Search for Melanie: On Feb. 19, 2013, Bill Windsor previously posted a photo of Melanie Smith on Facebook, with a similar request for information and his account was not suspended. Bill challenged AMPP to reveal the names of the stalkers, and Melanie Smith did not respond but other AMPP members did when the post appeared on the AMPP Facebook wall.

 


Bill Windsor

 

DO YOU KNOW THIS AUSTRALIAN WOMAN?

I have been provided with information this evening to indicate this is Melanie Smith also known as Mel, the head of the Australian Mothers Political Party and one of the ringleaders of the American Mothers Political Party, working with Claudine Dumbrowski, Loraine Tipton, and Jennifer Herbert.

I believe Melanie lives in Townsville, Queensland, Australia. I need a full street address for the police and a phone number and email, if possible. She may be in a relationship with Mal Hamilton, a tour guide with Tropicana Guided Adventure Company and a member of a band named “The Wee Johnny’s.”

Please email any information to me at nobodies@att.net

I have been too busy with real work for Lawless America to file my Criminal Warrant Applications against these women, but I hope to fill in a few blanks and have them ready to file tomorrow.

Feb, 19, 2013: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200780314296760&set=a.1865609366531.2111583.1429920220&type=1

 

Note: There is more than one Melanie associated with AMPP, and two specifically from Australia. ATW believes that Melanie Smith and Melanie Coutts are two different people, but both are associated with AMPP and Australian Mothers Political Party.

 

On 2/19/2013 Bill Windsor posted Melanie Smith's picture to Facebook, his account was not suspended

On 2/19/2013 Bill Windsor posted Melanie Smith’s picture to Facebook, his account was not suspended

Read here the story of Melanie Smith, and demand the truth for yourselves. If the UN Mothers Melanie Smith is not this killer, then we need to hear from her, and also Bill needs his statement. Anyone with information is encouraged to come forward, thanks! (If you indicate a need for privacy, we will not publicly post your comments.)

 

UNPROTECTIVE MOTHER AND KILLER MELANIE JANE SMITH

 

Melanie Smith (Murderpedia)

Born: 1969 Prestalyn, South Wales

Number of Children: 5.

Ex-Husband: Paul Smith (married 1987), 3 children, Charlotte, Lisa and Jonathon.

Paul and the children have accused Melanie of abuse, neglect and torture.

Date of Murders: Oct 19, 2012 (arrested same day)

Method of Murder: Set fire to a stroller outside a flat. She had the ground floor apartment; the upstairs was occupied by the victims. Before his death, victim Liam Timbrell heard Smith laughing and talking outside his door, he positively identified her as the one who set the fire.

After the fire, Smith ran back into her flat, then jumped into the bed to make it appear as if she had been there all along. Smith and her boyfriend escaped by climbing out a window.

Location: Prestalyn, Denbighshire, Wales, UK

Conviction: May 7, 2013. Sentanced to life in prison, 30 year minimum

Victims:

Lee-Anne Shiers, 20

Liam Timbrell, 23 (bf) (died in hospital, named Melanie as the one who set the fire, heard her voice outside)

Son Charlie, 15 mos (died in hospital)

Shier’s nephew Bailey, 4

Shier’s niece, Skye, 2

 

CHILD ABUSE ALLEGATIONS:

 

Sources:

Mail Online, May 5 2013, Suzannah Hills. ‘We all wish she was dead': Children of woman who killed family of five in a house blaze reveal years of abuse they suffered at their mother’s hands':  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319784/Prestatyn-killer-Melanie-Smiths-children-reveal-abuse-suffered-hands.html

Mirror, May 5 2013, Simon Wright. ‘Melanie Smith: Kids who Escaped Life of Torture with Killer Brand Their Mum Britain’s Most Evil Woman': http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/melanie-smith-kids-who-escaped-1870434#ixzz2zIwNmxzQ

 

The children of Melanie Smith call her “the most evil woman in Britain”, for how she viciously abused and then abandoned them, and express grief for the victims she burned to death. Ex-husband Paul Smith also recalls Melanie’s abuse and neglect of the children.

 

Paul met Melanie at Pontins near Prestatyn where she was working as a chambermaid. They married in 1987. Melanie gave birth to three children within the next 4 years—Lisa, Charlotte and Jonathon. Paul said Melanie “lacked maternal instinct” and resented being tied down by motherhood, she preferred to drink and party. After the birth of their first child, Paul says he “was excited to be a dad” but Melanie did not want Lisa around her. Melanie also resented her second daughter, according to Paul, “because she was not a boy”. Melanie was excited when her son was born then fell back into drinking, leaving Paul with most of the responsibility to care for the three young children. Paul eventually had to quit his job to care for the children full-time because of Melanie’s instability, and inability to provide for the children. 

 

Lisa, Charlotte and Jonathon have come forward to publicly speak about their mother, revealing how she burned them with cigarettes, poured boiling water over them and locked them in a tiny cupboard. She also chopped off their hair if they “made too much noise”. Ex-husband Paul Smith says that Melanie abused and neglected the children, and showed no maternal instinct, and instead preferred to party and drink. Paul says he saw bruises on the children, that they were not fed and their diapers were not changed while the children were in Melanie’s care.

Paul noticed that Melanie’s heavy drinking resulted in more abuse of the children; when he noticed marks or bruises, Melanie always had an excuse. Paul said sometimes he came home to find the children alone, wet, hungry and crying—Melanie was asleep or passed out. Then Paul discovered Melanie in bed with another man, the children locked in another room so she could have sex, and decided to file for divorce.

Despite the abuse and neglect, after their divorce, Melanie won custody of the children. After being awarded custody, Melanie could not handle caring for the children, and a day later, abandoned the children ages 3, 2, and 9 months into voluntary foster care. The court later reversed its decision, apologized, and awarded Paul sole custody, the children have thrived in his care and fought to forget their mother, though scars still linger.

 

Paul Smith told the UK Mirror, “I picked them up from emergency foster parents. They looked so scared my heart broke. If I hadn’t lived through it, I wouldn’t believe a mother was capable of such cruelty towards her own kids. It’s the same cruelty that has now taken the lives of those poor victims in the fire. She should rot in jail until the day she dies.”

 

Her daughter Charlotte, now 23, told the Sunday Mirror: “We all wish she was dead. Knowing that the evil woman who killed that poor family is our mother is almost impossible to bear. Dad rescued us from hell. He’s brought us all up without her but now she’s back in our lives in the most horrific way imaginable. She’s been dead to us since we were tiny. Now I just want her to rot in hell.”

Melanie never tried to see or contact her children. The next time they would see their mother would be on TV, arrested after killing 5 people in a fire she set.

MELANIE SMITH SETS FIRE, KILLS FAMILY IN A JEALOUS RAGE

Fire Set in Communal Hallway by Melanie Smith who Escaped out a Window and Watched the Flat Burn (Daily Mail)

At the time of the fire, Melanie Smith was unemployed and a heavy drinker. She had been kicked out of several pubs due to her outrageous behavior. Melanie was also reported to be an obsessively neat, so bad that she had to seek therapy. Melanie closely guarded her boyfriend Steven Clarkson with intense jealously that had caused her, in August, to vandalize his car, and attempt to set it on fire. Melanie had made several threats to start fires before the killing.

On October 19, 2012, Melanie was upset that a baby stroller was left in the communal hallway of the flat she shared with upstairs neighbors, Lee-Anna Shiers and her boyfriend,20, Liam Timbrell, 23. Melanie had been drinking heavily that day, and had take out dinner with Steven Clarkson. Melanie’s rage was lit when she heard noise in the apartment above, that suggested Lee-Anna and Liam were making love. It has been suggested that Melanie was jealous of the couple’s happiness because Steven was cheating on her, and their relationship was so troubled. Smith also made false allegations that Lee-Anna was having an affair with Steven, to which there is no substantiation. Melanie then went into the communal hallway and set fire to the stroller, setting off an intense fire that would leave the building looking like a bomb had hit it.

While the flat burned, Melanie crawled back into bed with Steven to make it look like she had been asleep all along. She then escaped out a window with Steven, and stood across the street to watch the family die. Witness said they could screams and cries for help but the fire was too hot and too intense to rescue the family.

The Fire Devastated the Flat, Empty the Baby Swing on the Floor Once Held Charlie (DailyMail)

Lee-Anna and Liam were trapped in the flat, desperately calling 999 for help as the fire consumed the everything around them, then took their lives.

As the fire took hold, Mr Timbrell was heard in the background of a 999 call screaming, “Oh my God, oh my God, we’re going to die.”

Justice Griffith-Williams said at sentencing: “For those who had to hear the evidence of the 999 calls, the horror of those moments in the flat upstairs as Lee-Anna and Liam faced the awful inevitability of their imminent deaths will be forever etched on their memories. Understandably the knowledge of the manner of their deaths has added to the overwhelming grief of their families, all the more to those who rushed to the house in the hope they could help…”

Lee-Anna, Liam and Charlie perished in the fire (Dailymail)

Liam and his 15 months old son, Charlie, were pulled from the fire. Charlie was pronounced dead at the scene. Lee-Anna, her nephew Bailey, 4, and niece, Skye, 2, were found deceased inside a bedroom in the flat, crouching together in the last moments of life. Despite being badly burned, Liam managed to tell police that, before the fire, he had heard Melanie shouting through the mail slot, “I’m going to burn your house down.” Liam later succumbed to his injuries and died at the hospital.

Bailey and Skye perished in fire (Dailymail)

Melanie was arrested on the scene, and has shown no remorse for her actions but tries to portray herself as the victim. During the trial, Melanie refuted the 21 witnesses who spoke against her by saying they were in a conspiracy with a woman who was having a fling with her boyfriend Steven. The jury found Melanie guilty of threatening to start a fire and murder.

The court heard victim impact statement from Jonty Lewis, 29, the mother of Skye and Bailey, who said her heart was ‘torn apart’ by their deaths,When I wake up in the morning, that first minute is beautiful…In those 60 seconds I feel no pain and I’m just listening for the laughter and footsteps running across the landing in the hope that my bedroom door will fly open and they will come bouncing in, jump onto the bed so that I can smother them in kisses. It is then that reality sets in. My heart is wrenched and the heavy empty feeling engulfs me.”

On May 7, 2013 she was convicted then sentenced to life in prison, to serve a minimum of 30 years.

Melanie Smith going to jail where she belongs (Murderpedia)

 

Lee-Anna’s father Peter says, “It’s going to be very hard to fill the space that has been left in our hearts and in our lives.”

 

Sources:

BBC News, “Prestatyn Fire Deaths: Melanie Smith guilty of murder”, April 30, 2013:  http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-22294592

 

“Jailed for 30 years, mum who burned neighbours to death because they left pushchair in the hallway: Chilling pictures show remains of the flat where five people died,”, Lizz Hull, May 8 2012Mail Online: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321273/Prestatyn-Jailed-30-years-Melanie-Smith-burned-neighbours-death-left-pushchair-hallway-Chilling-pictures-remains-flat-people-died.html

Murderpedia: http://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/smith-melanie.htm

 

 

 

The Burned Out Flat and Memorial Balloon (Murderpedia)

 

BARRY GOLDSTEIN : Goats, Abusers & Family Court

The “formal Battered Mothers Custody Conference” will NOT be held this year

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Why the BMCC has declined to host a “formal BMCC” has not been disclosed.  As ATW has reported, the Mother’s Movement has encountered numerous problems throughout the year…many “advocates” in the Mother’s Movement who have promised help, and to reform  family court, have proven to be abusers, shameless self promoters, cyberstalkers and otherwise incompetent. And other leading organizations in the Mother’s Movement have supported, promoted and/or enabled these abusive advocates. The unprofessional behavior of many in the Mother’s Movement has hindered progress toward meaningful family court reform and caused fear and intimidation among those they are supposed to help. 

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Advocates in the Mother’s Movement who support and enable Claudine Dombrowski (AMPP). Dombrowski has a protective order issued against her for harassment and criminal cyberstalking

Instead of a “formal conference”, the Battered Mothers and Kids Custody Conference (BMCC) will hold a “mini BMCC” at the George Washington University Law School.

 

The Mother’s Movement is rolling out the Astroturf grass to announce Barry “Goatstein, offering a lecture on “domestic violence advocate training”.

 

Remember, in 2009, the State of New York said about Barry, “his conduct exceeded the bounds of propriety as a courtroom advocate,” and then revoked his license to practice law for 5 years. With Barry’s revocation of his law license, and affiliation with a known abuser,  you have to wonder if he has the judgment and experience to be the domestic violence expert he claims to be? And knowing Barry’s questionable past, should he be lecturing at various domestic violence and family law conferences? Should Barry be offering training to advocates? Should Barry be training and educating family court judges about domestic violence and its harmful effects on children? And should Barry be offering advice to desperate protective mothers?

 

The following quotes and screenshots are public statements made by Barry Goldstein… 

 

1) Barry says Goats Are the Best Abuse Advocates because “Of course goats always protect their kids so we can learn from them”.

 

It is insulting that Barry really thinks a goat is more knowledgeable about protecting a child than their own mother, when he claims to be an advocate for mothers and sympathetic to their cause.

 

 

2) According to Barry, Goats Are Now the Symbol “For Our Cause”.

 

3) ARE goats an appropriate symbol for Barry’s cause?? And should abuse advocates, judges and other domestic violence professionals be learning from goats?

 

Goats can be dangerous, and aggressive! ..And have a strange obsession with urine.

 

 

Goats crave the taste of human urine—and will aggressively stalk men to drink their their urine, this has resulted in the death of a hiker who was attacked by wild goats. 

 

Hikers have been warned to maintain a distance from the goats, at least 50 yards away from them – half the length of a football field.

Mountain Goat safety tips: http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/olympic/home/?cid=stelprdb5412239

 

Harrowing story of a hiker’s close call with a mountain goat, “It was as if the sound of my zipper was a dinner bell. A narrow white face, curious, popped over a ridge 20 feet from my crotch. Then another one. Talk about stage fright, or performance anxiety. They approached confidently. They both stared at me, and I stared back at them, confused and anxious…”: http://semi-rad.com/2012/01/beware-the-urine-drinking-goats

 

Goats also spray themselves with urine prior to mating. Males goats urinate on their beards, legs and bellies to advertise their dominance. Sounds pretty sexist, huh? : http://listverse.com/2012/10/10/top-10-cute-animals-with-disgusting-toilet-habits/

 

4) According to Barry, he is celebrated by the rest of the animal kingdom for his “work to protect goats and kids”…

 

Here Barry receives a fishy breath kiss from Cailey the Dolphin, who can’t keep her fins off him, “Cailley the dolphin found out about my work to protect goats and kids and this was her immediate response.”

 

Barry compares Cailly to the family court judges, and said her kiss is quote “somewhat different from the reactions I have received from the various judges.”   

 

 

5) Barry says criminal cyberstalkers Claudine Dombrowski, Lorraine Tipton and the attack mothers at American Mothers Political Party (AMPP) “made enormous sacrifices for our movement”…while ignoring the abuse they have inflicted on other protective moms, their harassment towards other organizations working for changes in family court and their long history of cyberbullying and harassment (which continues to this day).

 

And then Barry says Bill Windsor, of Lawless America, is wrong for standing up to Claudine, and filing for a protective order to protect himself from the dangerous behavior and threats posed by Claudine and AMPP. Both Claudine and Lorraine made death threats against Bill Windsor, and also posted an online rant saying they want to “get rid of” domestic violence and family court advocate Janice Levinson (Protective Mothers Alliance International).

4) Barry says Claudine Dombrowski of AMPP, a Serial Stalker and Cyber Bully, is a “Legitimate Protective Mother” (seen screen shot below). What is that supposed to mean?  Is Barry so blindly in support of an abuser that he cannot empathize with the very REAL suffering and trauma of a mother struggling in family court against an abuser, and a system that has failed to uphold her rights and failed to protect her child?

Barry Goldstein supports serial stalker and cyberbully Claudine Dombrowski (AMPP) — even as she is attacking fellow professionals in the Mother’s Movement.

5) Does Barry have any Credibility after his License was Revoked?  In 2009, The Grievance Committee for the Ninth Judicial District, State of New York, reviewed 29 charges of professional misconduct against Barry. Of which, 17 charges were upheld, 4 separate charges partly dismissed and 8 charges completely dismissed. As a result, Barry had his license revoked for 5 years and cannot practice law until it is reinstated. http://www.nycourts.gov/reporter/3dseries/2008/2008_10622.htm

The charges involve two separate issues:  A- The main part of Barry’s legal practice, at the time, was representing tenants for a non-profit housing resource center that offers a variety of help to assist families with housing issues, and to restabilize families facing crisis or homelessness. Barry’s actions hurt an organization working hard to help struggling families, and to build stronger neighborhoods–offering help free of charge to needy families.   13 of these charges have to do with Barry mishandling client funds; and specifically that Barry failed to properly manage an escrow account and was inappropriately transferring funds. Barry also failed to keep a separate checkbook for the attorney escrow account, and failed to obtain escrow checks bearing the title “Attorney Escrow Account” or “Attorney Special Account” or “Attorney Trust Account” which would clearly identify where the money was coming from, and who was managing the account.  When asked to respond to the complaint, Barry refused to answer. 

 

B-The second part of the complaint involves how Barry handled a family law case, it should be noted the Battered Mothers Custody Conference (BMCC) was also involved with this client, and their suggestion that the mother go public with her story, including revealing sensitive details about child abuse, may have had negative impact on her custody outcome. The judge  issued a gag order that the last name of the children should not be revealed in order to protect their privacy, and Barry released the last name in an online article about the case. Barry was found to have made dishonest, false and misleading statements to the Court, and to the public when speaking about this case.

Barry claims he is being attacked by the legal system for coming to the rescue of a protective mom…but where is the proof his statements are true? Where are the affidavits or witness statements in support of Barry? And looking at Barry’s delusional comments, and record of defending abusers—how is anyone supposed to “BELIEVE” anything he has to say?

 

6) Dreams, Barry Goldstein has them… Barry has Psychic Dreams about the Deceased President John F. Kennedy; they walked along the beach, and reminisced about their lives. President Kennedy sympathizes with Barry after reading the story about his court woes, “He said he could tell from the details that this was an injustice and it could not stand.” President Kennedy makes a few phone calls, and voila the Court is apologizing to Barry and reversing its decision!

 

Note the concern Barry shows towards those hurt by his actions–the non-profit and its clients, and the mother in family court are not given even one comment as the whole post is focused on Barry alone. The Grievance Committee noted that Barry showed a “complete lack of remorse” in their findings.

Barry Goldstein had a dream that John F Kennedy made a phone call and used his connections to reinstate Barry’s (revoked) law license

::Applause::

::Stomping of hooves::

 

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